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Old 20-02-2014, 19:50   #1
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Question about jib size for C&C 30

I purchased a 73' mk 1 and am in the process of getting her ready to sail as soon as the weather warms up a bit. She came with 6 head sails. I know all of them except the #3.

The other head sails are a 110, 150, 170, staysail and spinnaker. I assume that the #3 is a working jib, smaller than the 110? Hopefully I'll have a chance to run all of them up the forestay soon.
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Re: Question about jib size for C&C 30

A number three is typically a 100% jib. Referred to as a "blade" in racing speak. Might have a batten in the upper part of the sail.
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Re: Question about jib size for C&C 30

A 100% jib and a blade are usually different.
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A 100% jib and a blade are usually different.
A blade is typically a 100% (sometimes a bit smaller or larger) "jib" that might be cut a little flatter then a working jib for upwind work in a blow.

If the boat came with a racing oriented inventory (upwind/downwind) then a #3 is usually a blade.
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Depending on the age of the sails because blades were not used that much years ago.
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I purchased a 73' mk 1 and am in the process of getting her ready to sail as soon as the weather warms up a bit. She came with 6 head sails. I know all of them except the #3.

The other head sails are a 110, 150, 170, staysail and spinnaker. I assume that the #3 is a working jib, smaller than the 110? Hopefully I'll have a chance to run all of them up the forestay soon.

in your case, the smallest sail ( 100 %)?? would be a number 4. your number 3 is the 110. number 1 is 170. the smallest sail is often called the storm sail. some times a boat will have a multiple number one or even doubles of other sails. shaped differently for different points of sail or wind ranges.
btw, 170 headsails are going out of favor nowadays, penalized for racing and not much faster then 150's for C&C yachts.
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in your case, the smallest sail ( 100 %)?? would be a number 4. your number 3 is the 110. number 1 is 170. the smallest sail is often called the storm sail. some times a boat will have a multiple number one or even doubles of other sails. shaped differently for different points of sail or wind ranges.
btw, 170 headsails are going out of favor nowadays, penalized for racing and not much faster then 150's for C&C yachts.
I have a sail in a bag marked #3 and one in another bag marked #110. I haven't pulled them out yet. So I suspect that the #3 is smaller than the 110,

ThIs is one of the problems with me living 3.5 hours away from where the boat is docked. I have precious time to spend on board. I'm trying to get ready for a trip south. Hopefully I'll have a chance to hoist all the head sails tomorrow before the predicted thunderstorms arrive.
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Re: Question about jib size for C&C 30

For boats of that era, as I recall things, the inventory might go like this (at least, this was how our old Standfast 36 (IOR one tonner from 1974) was set up):

light #1=165
heavy #1=165
#2=150
#3= 130
#4= 100 (full hoist, which in my parlance made it a blade. If less than full hoist it would have been called a working jib.)
storm jib (about 100 sq ft)

When we went cruising in that boat we took the light #1, the #3, #4 and the storm jib. The #3 was the work horse... got lots of miles on it. Seldom used the #1 because it was a deck sweeper and blinded the helmsman through a big sector (I'm still embarrassed by the time I hit a huge tanker mooring buoy in the La Paz channel when using that sail!).

When I finally overcame my prejudices and bought a furler, the sail I had made for it was about like the #3 in size. Eventually added a inner forestay and a hank on staysail for going to windward in 25+ true. Not a bad set up...

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