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Old 30-01-2016, 21:56   #31
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Re: Mack or Doyle ?

I have Doyle's that came with the boat. Have contacted the NY office a couple of times and it's been a very good experience. At 2015 Miami Strictly Sail Show I met some very helpful people from Mack. They agreed that I needed a part for my masthead and they could fabricate it and sell it to me. The job was for a top down furler but it was best to have the rest of the job done from a rigger in the northeast. I called Mack after the show when we got back and received a quote from the guy I met at the show. The part was like $300. When I called the next day to place the order, the owner got on the phone and scolded me for trying to get a deal on a job he wouldn't make any money on. I mean he was bad. Crazy rude like I was trying to scam him. I was just doing what his staff at the show, and later in his office advised me to do. I thought it was good advice. He cancelled the job and I'll never use Mack for anything, ever. That's my experience. Doyle seems fine to me. They're sails are great.

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Old 30-01-2016, 23:56   #32
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Re: Mack or Doyle ?

Had Mack make a full batten main, 135 roller furling genoa, and an Asymetric spinnaker plus supply a new boom for my '69 Pearson 35. They were super easy to deal with, helped me with measurements and were got right on any issues. Somehow the boom ended up too short by a few inches for the main and they had the mfg. replace the boom with a proper length one. The Cunningham got left off the build of the main inadvertently. They just had me take it to a local sail maker and reimbursed me. Somehow lost a pin in batten hinge at the main which resulted in a slightly bent SS fitting. Could have easily straightened the bent piece and just needed a replacement pin but they sent me whole new assembly without my asking. Only contacted them for a new pin 'cause couldn't find a replacement here at the end of the world.

Best part was their pricing was way less than local sailmakers. Saved enough on the Main and Genoa to pay for the Asym.

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Old 21-07-2016, 12:27   #33
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Re: Mack or Doyle ?

Kenomac, I just realized that I never followed up.

We went with Mack after talking to them at the Miami boat show in 2010. First, we replaced all our standing rigging and our main traveler. Then we replaced our main and mizzens with 10.62 oz HA full-battened large-roached sails, our working jib with a 9.77 oz HA miter-cut 115% high-clew genoa, and our staysail with a 10.62 oz HA staysail, and a 1.5 oz asymmetrical cruising chute with ATN sock.

The full battens and added sail area from the extra roach on the main/mizzen and the 115% genoa really help in low winds - we typically sail at half the apparent wind speed while broad reaching and running. And the boom-less, self-tacking staysail with a clewboard works wonders upwind.

The sails are triple-stiched, and have UHMW strips on the batten pocket ends to slip by our backstays when tacking (we have twin backstays on the main). Everything is high quality - the sails have stood up well the last 5 years, including two in the Bahamas and Caribbean. The possible exception in quality was the MackPack sailcovers; they could have used some extra reinforcements on the jackline grommets - I need to reinforce those.

Travis Blain and Colin Mack were great to work with - they split the order over a year's timeframe to help with our budget. They also took an undersized, almost new Forespar whisker pole someone gave us in trade for a new, correctly sized one, and made recommendations on rerouting all the sheets. Highly recommended!

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