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Old 11-12-2015, 18:12   #1
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Let's play Name This Sail

After going thru assorted sailing equipment I had stored away, I came accross this jib.
Luff 18' 3"
Leach 14' 9"
Foot 8' 9"

The sail is double stitched.
Made by Hild Sails (Cith Island LI.)
Sails in good shape.
Cloth weight. Not what I would call storm jib weight. Not light weight. 6 1/2 - 7 oz would be my guess.

Laying on floor, it has a fairly high foot. Yankee?

Here's the part I don't get. It has a head pennant 2' long, and a clew pennant 17' 10"
By 35 Bristol had a roller furling, and the only hank on sails I had were a storm jib, and 4oz huge genny, also hanked on to removable inner forrstay.
Never flew a yankee, or any other hank on sails.
I don't have spec handy, but I don't think my removable inner forestay had a luff 38' long.
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

Possible to hoist it and show us a decent photo? Might help.....
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

OK, you've got a 35' Bristol. Is it a sloop or a cutter?

The description of the sail sounds like a yankee. So, do you have hank on sails?

Because in moderately heavy weather, that sail might serve you well. But if you or someone else has converted to roller furling, it may be extraneous (no way to fly it).
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Old 12-12-2015, 07:14   #4
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

I don't have a way to hoist it. The Bristol was an Alden design sloop. It didn't come from my boat. A cruising friend, has stored stuff here.
One of his boats was a Pacific Seacraft, cutter! 31' or 34'
Think I will look for sail plan.
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Looks like it might be a Yankee from one of the Pacific Seacrafts.
I'll have to give him a call and see what he wants to do with it, as he sold the boat.
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

Not clear how you would use a long clew pennant. Is it on the tack?
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

The Clew Pennant is confusing.
If you mean "Tack", then the ultra-long luff is a worry.
If you really mean Clew as stated, then it sounds more like a sheet than a pennant. It could be a Staysail and the "pennant" is actually a sheet of sorts. Perhaps it was rigged for a boom and arranged as self-tacking.
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Intriguing. Could be a gaff topsail, or even a jigger topgallant staysail.
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Or simply a Flying Jib
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If the long pennant could be on the tack then I think you could be looking at a mizzen staysail for a good size yawl. I believe the Block island 40, for example, has the mizzen staysail tack secured far forward, requiring a relatively long pennant.
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

I would say it is meant to fly from the bowsprit to the mast top on a gaff cutter, possibly with job to the throat and a staysail. Fills in the area above the jib hence the long pendant. Also useful in a heavy head sea when the jib would keep catching waves. This would be clear of waves and spray. being high and foreward it will have lots of leverage on the bow to balance a large gaff main.
As to a name, possibly a royal or gallant jib but would need to know the sail plan
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Wow! That was wrong. The head pennant is the long one. Duh!
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Here's the part I don't get. It has a head pennant 2' long, and a clew pennant 17' 10".
OK miss-read that as head and tack. How are the pennants attached? Very unusual to have a pennant on the tack let alone one that length, could it have been switched from the tack? What size are the hanks, gives an idea of the size boat it was for.
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Re: Let's play Name This Sail

Its pretty common to have a pennant on the tack. It keeps the sail from filling with water from the waves when in heavier weather. It also keeps the sail from chafing on the lifelines/pulpit. Finally, it improves visibility forward.
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If the long pennant could be on the tack then I think you could be looking at a mizzen staysail for a good size yawl. I believe the Block island 40, for example, has the mizzen staysail tack secured far forward, requiring a relatively long pennant.
Exactly. Looking at getting one for my ketch. Possible alternative to a reefed main.
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