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Old 10-10-2012, 04:26   #1
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Jib furlling, which rope?

I am about to replace the jib furling line, since it is too small and fiddly to work with, I am wondering if there is any benefit going with spectra/dynema over braid on braid?
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

It's slippery stuff. Okay on our halyards because we don't alter them much (in mast reefing) but it would be tricky for the furling line on a winch without a self tailing widget. It's also expensive and I have just noticed a bit of abrasion on one of ours from a locking cleat (I think) after 18 months.

Does it matter if the furling line stretches an inch or so? if not save the pennies and buy some extra vino before you depart the Euro zone.

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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

Pete, the other half is going shopping mad, since gibraltar has a morrisons! next stop canaries then the Caribbean . As for the rope I was more thinking when the jib is reefed, the furling line is under a lot of load..
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

Doubler braid will do just fine. Go one size bigger if you can - its easier on the hands.
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

Remove enough of the the centre core to reduce the build-up on the drum, and leave the remainder full size for grip. Stitch thru the outer jacket to secure the end of the core in place.
My 1/2" furling line has worked perfectly like this for 10 years.
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

Dyneema is no good for this application -- it is a low load application so you don't need the strength, and you don't need the lack of stretch, either. But Dyneema is slippery and harder to handle. For furling lines, use regular polyester double braid.

If you want to go up a size, be sure that the whole length will fit on your furler drum.

Dyneema is just the thing for halyards, however.
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

mine is double braid, full thickness, 3/8 inch--i can trade end for end and make it last longer.....long enough for 3 wraps around the jib when furled tightly.....
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Pete, the other half is going shopping mad, since gibraltar has a morrisons! next stop canaries then the Caribbean . As for the rope I was more thinking when the jib is reefed, the furling line is under a lot of load..
Excellent, you wouldn't want to run out of Marmite, Heinz baked beans and loo rolls, you can't buy them in those foreign places you know,
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Doubler braid will do just fine. Go one size bigger if you can - its easier on the hands.
FWIW, my earlier comment was for double braid, not Dyneema.
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

hey they even have scotch pies for us northerners! braid on braid it is.. now for the 4 miles round trip to the chandlers
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

My favorite furling line is actually a tapered dyneema one. With the core just long enough that when we have it furled in the core+cover is on the cleat. This way we get the small size we need so it all fits on the drum, the strength when reefed, and a larger line size when working it.

The cost for this was about the same as a sta-set line would have been, but works much better.

Frankly I have abolished polyester lines from my boat, and with a few minutes splicing can make tapered lines that are typically the same or less money, lighter, don't absorbe water, stronger, last longer, and run through blocks easier. Polyester was great stuff, but it is now just a relic hanging on because of inertia, not practicality.
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Re: Jib furlling, which rope?

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Remove enough of the the centre core to reduce the build-up on the drum, and leave the remainder full size for grip. Stitch thru the outer jacket to secure the end of the core in place.
My 1/2" furling line has worked perfectly like this for 10 years.

I totally agree with this, my furling line has lasted at least 10 years and because the line is flat, I have never had an overide. And by the way my furling line is only 3/8 in.

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