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Old 03-06-2014, 19:46   #16
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Re: I need to choose a configuration for the staysail..

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That's what I call "getting ahead of yourself", although in a good way. If that wind is off the land, great. Open ocean, chuck out the drogue!
It was actually fun while it lasted, but we didn't maintain that for long. Finally just hove to and rode it out for 24 hours (quite comfy for near hurricane force conditions...slept, made coffee, cooked). We were about 150nm offshore and wind was coming from shore so sea room was not an issue. Seas got big, bit not really ugly, so we just bobbed along.
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Re: I need to choose a configuration for the staysail..

I like a wishbone staysail boom. Simple, self vanging and drops easily without easing the clew or messing with luff lacings to slack the luff.

A full length batten near the top is good for sailshape and sail life. Stopping excessive fullness and fluttering in the typically high aspect staysail.

Also good to have port and stb preventers to stop the boom gybing over when running, heaving too, and to back staysail for manoeuvering under sail.

One deep reef is useful.

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I like a wishbone staysail boom. Simple, self vanging and drops easily without easing the clew or messing with luff lacings to slack the luff.

A full length batten near the top is good for sailshape and sail life. Stopping excessive fullness and fluttering in the typically high aspect staysail.

Also good to have port and stb preventers to stop the boom gybing over when running, heaving too, and to back staysail for manoeuvering under sail.

One deep reef is useful.

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Good advice in the last two posts.
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Re: I need to choose a configuration for the staysail..

I've only had loose footed, and as setup they tend to be very limited in use. The tracks do not accommodate a wide variety of point of sail. The tracks may be installed so you can beat to weather fairly well but if you crack off the sheet a lot the sail looks like crap. The boom takes care of much of this issue. OTOH, I used a 4 part "barber hauler" on my staysail clew and was often able to solve the sheeting angle issues with that. Not quick tacking or jibing that way though!
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I seriously believe the biggest problem with most staysails is they are too small
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I've only had loose footed, and as setup they tend to be very limited in use. The tracks do not accommodate a wide variety of point of sail. The tracks may be installed so you can beat to weather fairly well but if you crack off the sheet a lot the sail looks like crap. The boom takes care of much of this issue. OTOH, I used a 4 part "barber hauler" on my staysail clew and was often able to solve the sheeting angle issues with that. Not quick tacking or jibing that way though!
I hesitated to mention barber-hauling because I figured no one would recognize the term, but this would be my preference. I figure that as "a sail that stays", I would be using it under windvane guidance for long periods (maybe days) on the same tack and therefore it would require little tweaking once set. To me, the extra "fuss" of the barber-hauling option outweighs the hole in the (steel) deck required by the wishbone boom option. If I had a ketch, I would think differently, but for our cutter, where the staysail stay terminates in the anchor well, I would have too busy a foredeck to want a staysail boom. Others may well choose differently and correctly for their boat and sailing plans.
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Re: I need to choose a configuration for the staysail..

I seriously believe the biggest problem with most staysails is they are too small

Yeah, some may be. The ones on my Tanton 44 and Passport 47 were perfect. Both boats were a real pleasure with two reefs, staysail and 30-35 knots of wind. No weather helm and flat and fast! Woooo Hooo! Some of the best sailing I ever had.
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I hesitated to mention barber-hauling because I figured no one would recognize the term, but this would be my preference. I figure that as "a sail that stays", I would be using it under windvane guidance for long periods (maybe days) on the same tack and therefore it would require little tweaking once set. To me, the extra "fuss" of the barber-hauling option outweighs the hole in the (steel) deck required by the wishbone boom option. If I had a ketch, I would think differently, but for our cutter, where the staysail stay terminates in the anchor well, I would have too busy a foredeck to want a staysail boom. Others may well choose differently and correctly for their boat and sailing plans.
Just weld on the base fitting.. so much drier..
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Just weld on the base fitting.. so much drier..
It's occurred to me, certainly, but finding a welder who can fabricate around here is driving me to learn welding and fabrication...
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