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Old 27-01-2016, 06:37   #16
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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

Our method - a knot in the end of the halyard where it's tied. Slip the loop over the knot and hitch the lower line. Fast and easy and haven't lost a flag yet ...
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Old 27-01-2016, 06:48   #17
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One use of eye at top, and line at bottom, could be to eliminate any confusion as to proper orientation of the flag?

I know this would seem silly to some, but there are a lot of flags out there. And this would be a simple way to avoid possible offending someone.

Just thinking out loud.

I believe as has already been posted that line is there so you can string together flags
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Old 27-01-2016, 06:59   #18
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I believe as has already been posted that line is there so you can string together flags
Fair enough, most likely so.

With the added benefit they would all be correctly oriented. Assuming the sailor knows how at least one flag of the string should look.
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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

I draw an arrow on the flag so I know which was is up.
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Old 27-01-2016, 07:21   #20
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Robin, could you please define top pullet for me? I thought a pullet was a young hen. Clearly it is not! Anyhow, thanks in advance.

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Baby chicken, poulet(Fr) small 'pulley', 'pullet'? y and t are next door on m one finger keyboard and the letters have rubbed off!
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Hmmm. I suspect Evans is right. I don't really have a problem with this. My flag halyard has two carabiner snaps. When I need to fly a flag, I simply hook the one at the top and the other in the bow line loop I've tied on the short line at the bottom.

When I remove the flag, I simply snap the two snaps together and the halyard line is now continuous. If I need to 2 or more flags, I simply hook the top grommet to the bottom line - flag to flag and then do what I do if flying one flag
This sounds like the hot setup to me. It will keep me from losing either of my halyard ends, it will allow me to fly more than one flag at a time, and it will keep tension along the luffs of the flags so they fly neatly.

It's a much better solution than what I came up with. Thanks!

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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

C'mon. This question is NOT serious, is it?

The loop takes the top of the flag line that loops round and under. The tail gets into the bottom of your flag line that is formed (not tied) into a loop. Hoist and make tight. END OF STORY.

I am not sure where the joke is. I must be blind.

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Our method - a knot in the end of the halyard where it's tied. Slip the loop over the knot and hitch the lower line. Fast and easy and haven't lost a flag yet ...
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I do it this way too. Those rope loops sewed into the flags have been known to pull out otherwise. This is the safest method IMO
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On the subject of ensigns and courtesy flags, has anyone ever seen the European Union flag used?


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Yes at the Ryder and Solheim Cup Golf events.Otherwise It is just a FLAG not a legal maritime ensign even if some comedians trying to make some strange point have them bastardised with their national flags sewn into a corner and wear them as 'ensigns'. I have a plain EU flag in my flag bag but only for fun or when dressed overall as it is not a courtesy flag to fly in EU waters where the appropriate one is the specific country's ensign.

But then you probably knew that?

This is a topic akin to anchors and anchoring or life rafts an life jackets for creating friction on some European forums when some anarchistically inclined folk want to poke fun at people being pedantic over correct ( and legal) ensign use.

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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

i fly only one flag at a time, if that. i tie it on, and raise. then wind blows it away, piece by piece. .
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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

I make a proper job of it and fit Seasure Nylon Inglefield Hooks to the halyard and flags - it makes for easy changing, good luff tension and a seamanlike solution!

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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

I have a continuous line in a loop as my flag pennant, with a small clip permanently attached. This is the top fitting into which either a pennant top toggle or loop can be placed and then I make up a small loop lower down, with the bight longer than the fall of the pennant(s) so that when I tie of the bottom line of the lowest pennant to the loop, it pulls all the pennants tight once fastened off. With regards Pangubans enquiry about the EU flag, it is not allowed to be flown on vessels since it is not any country's courtesy flag unlike the stars and stripes which represents the USA. I guess it would be similar to an american vessel flying a state flag.
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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

I am pretty sure the intension is that the flag becomes part of a potentially endless chain in the same way cray fishermen join ropes together.
Each rope has the same arrangement as the flags. An eye at one end and a simple tail at the other. You join a tail to a loop using a Fishermans knot or sheet bend. We use a double sheet bend to ensure that it can easily be untied after long periods under strain.
Any number of ropes can be joined together in this manner if they all have eye and tail. As suggested by others, any number of flags can be added also.
Fisherman do this to allow them to go deeper as they follow cray fish over the shelf. 4 x 30 fathom ropes may be joined together or even more!
I hope that helps
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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

It's pretty obvious ,however, I probably should confirm that your halyard therefore must have an eye and a loop. It can be tied to itself and restrained somewhere convenient, when not in use with a flag.
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Re: How to hoist a courtesy flag

Don't forget: These 'European' flags their eye is Always the top; the line goes down!
Now you never have your flag top down.
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