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Old 08-03-2015, 20:48   #1
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Height of deck organizers

The pics are of the deck organizers on my Catalina 30. Weíve owned the boat since last spring. I recently noticed that the deck organizers are lower than they could/should(?) be. See pics. You can see how the lines angle down to the deck organizer when exiting the mast. Then when they leave the deck organizer they rise as they head toward the cockpit.
In thinking about this, I believe this is adding unnecessary friction in the line routing. To what degree, I canít say. Thoughts about that?
I am considering raising the deck organizers so they are reasonably even with the lines from the mast and to the cockpit. I would use marine board spacers. The plus of doing this would be eliminating any unnecessary friction, as stated above. The downsides, as far as I can see, are an increase in trip hazard as the lines will be higher, and possible overload of the anchoring of the deck organizers to the deck.
Any comments appreciated! I will be on the road for the next week or so, so if I donít reply to a post right away, thatís why. Thanks!
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:35   #2
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Re: Height of deck organizers

Nahh, they are fine , not a big deal, but anyway if you want to fit the spacers .... like you say more prone to grab a feet in the wrong moment....
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Re: Height of deck organizers

I would not monkey with them until you see how they perform with respect to friction or chafe. Since the arrival/departure angles are not the same there is no "perfect" angle to mount them at so you're going to get some incremental friction no matter what you do. And I would be more concerned with chafe than friction, although the angles look acceptable.

If you do proceed, I would not raise them. Instead I would shim them so that the angle of the wheels is halfway between the arrival and departure angles.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:02   #4
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Re: Height of deck organizers

Thanks folks! I'm going to confirm the lines do not rub on the organizer housing. If not - they will stay as is!


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Re: Height of deck organizers

Don't know what the pad for the organizers is but you could just grind them to the angle that they won't chafe the line. No need to raise them up. Use a belt sander or an 8" sander/polisher with a hard foam pad. Not the sanding disk with a nut in the center but one that is flat all the way across and threads onto the sander spindle.

From the photos, they look prettty close to good as is however.
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Re: Height of deck organizers

If I find I need to raise them I'll just use a marine board spacer (UV resistant HDPE). It'll take very little time to cut 2 of those and put them in place with longer bolts.


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Re: Height of deck organizers

Suijin has it right.

The risers look like they should have been angled for better alignment.

You may even be able to lower the risers,if you angle them properly.

The plane of the centerline of the sheave needs to include the points that the line comes from and where it is going to.

I just did the calculations to find the best angle to mount a turning roller feeding my windlass.
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Re: Height of deck organizers

Yep. As said above.

They are fine.

If anything, drop the frwd end so that the line does not touch the cheeks.

Adjust with !all! lines in the organizer, and tight.

Your perfect spacer would be a wedge'ish shape then.

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Re: Height of deck organizers

We owned a Catalina 30 also. I found the same issue when winching in the halyyard. I made two risers out of 1/4" starboard and bedded them under the deck organizers. That did the trick
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