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Old 04-03-2014, 18:04   #1
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Halyard or Rope bags

Just picked up a yard of Sumbrella and some mesh to make a couple of rope bags for the halyards/reefing lines. I have three lines on each side of the cabin top and want to tidy them up a little.

Anyone have patterns or suggestions before I make a mess of it next week.

The sumbrella is for sides and mesh for the bottom was thinking of a flap cover but unsure of this. And wondering about attaching them hooks or something less permanent.
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Old 05-03-2014, 05:35   #2
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Re: Halyard or Rope bags

I just kind of guessed at mine.

I used Sunbrella for the backs and the mess for the fronts and sides. The one on the left actually has two bags so the main and jib halyard can go in the same container.

I'm making bigger ones this year as the ones I have can't contain the entire halyards when they get taken off of the boat at the end of the year.
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Well, that didn't work well at all. Let me try again.
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Sorry, this shows up just fine in the Preview Post but only shows rotate image when I post.

One more try.
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I give up. You'll have to take my word for it.
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Re: Halyard or Rope bags

For attachment I would try a strip of thick velcro across the width of the back. That way if you ever want to move/remove them, you only have to get the velcro strip off the fiberglass instead of filling holes.

I would go with the mesh in front as well, personally, to prevent mildew. I think a flap on top is just going to get in the way.
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Re: Halyard or Rope bags

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Just picked up a yard of Sumbrella and some mesh to make a couple of rope bags for the halyards/reefing lines. I have three lines on each side of the cabin top and want to tidy them up a little.

Anyone have patterns or suggestions before I make a mess of it next week.

The sumbrella is for sides and mesh for the bottom was thinking of a flap cover but unsure of this. And wondering about attaching them hooks or something less permanent.
If part mesh = no flaps
If all sunbrella = sunbrella bucket... add flaps, 1/3 h, you can tuck in 90% of the time...

For attachment, two male snaps on the bulkhead, two female on the backside top corners... Make them close enough "width wise" to be interchangeable in their snapped in position...No micrometer necessary...
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Re: Halyard or Rope bags

Thanks all.

Frank your photos posted well.

I think I'll draw some this evening and see what they come out like. I usually use coral draw for stuff but been trying Sketchup but can't seem to do much with it. Need more practice.
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Thanks all.

Frank your photos posted well.

I think I'll draw some this evening and see what they come out like. I usually use coral draw for stuff but been trying Sketchup but can't seem to do much with it. Need more practice.
They don't show up on my end. That's why I kept trying. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.
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Re: Halyard or Rope bags

Depends on your layout. The Heritage one-ton I raced years ago had sheet bags hanging in the companionway. All lines were led to the cockpit so tis was a logical spot. Triangular bag port & stbd with the pockets facing the steps. Small end of the triangle was forward and the aft end hung to the bottom of the companion way opening. control lines went in the smaller forward pockets, halyards in the large aft pockets. They were attached only at the top with the bottom (pointy end) swinging. There were big sheet bags aft for the main winches and one below the main traveler bridge. This worked well.

Halyards on our present boat are too big for bags so we flake & coil them and hang them at the mast.
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Re: Halyard or Rope bags

This is a project I want to tackle as well. I wonder if these 3M cord bundlers would work to hold the bag up. I think I will try them first instead of screwing in snaps or other attachment that requires putting holes in the bulkhead!
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They don't show up on my end. That's why I kept trying. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

Noticed the same thing on my post as well. All I see is "Rotate Image"
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Noticed the same thing on my post as well. All I see is "Rotate Image"
But I can see the image you posted.

Maybe it just affects the poster.

Anyhow, those would work I think depending on how much and how big in diameter the halyards are.

If you can see mine, the bag on the left is 12" (31 cm) wide and each pocket is 7" (18 cm) high. The one on the right is the same height but 17" (44 cm) wide.
The pockets have elastic in the top to hold them closed a little.

As I said, I'm redoing them for the up coming season to make the pockets fuller. Right now they only bag out by a few inches. The new ones will be about 4" more baggy to allow more line to be stowed.

These work fine for the day-to-day stuff during the season but there isn't enough room to store the halyards in them over the winter.
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This is a project I want to tackle as well. I wonder if these 3M cord bundlers would work to hold the bag up. I think I will try them first instead of screwing in snaps or other attachment that requires putting holes in the bulkhead!
  • Velcro. The stuff is not durable in the sun. A temporary solution, at best. a few years.
  • Hi-bond tape mounts. Should hold for a while (a season, perhaps more) on newish FRP, but not on weathered FRP of older boats. Don't worry about the "command" easy release; it will come off with mineral spirits. We're not talking drywall. This will give you a good way to trial the idea, but eventually you'll need holes for a pair of pad eyes.
  • Mesh is better. If the bags are in the weather, the ropes will stay damp much of the time. Thus...
  • Don't bother with lines that are out and working every time (genoa sheets, mainsheets). What the OP suggests makes sense.
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  • Don't bother with lines that are out and working every time (genoa sheets, mainsheets). What the OP suggests makes sense.
That's very true.

If you can see the last pic I put up, you'll see the larger bag on the port side by the stern. That holds my mainsheet or it would be all over the cockpit (you'll notice a distinct lack of a traveller. Another spring project). Anyhow, paying line out is a breeze. Stuffing it back in so it will flow properly when I need to let it out again is a lesson in patience.
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