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Old 27-05-2012, 02:28   #16
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Re: Halyard Jammed

Use a powerful vacumn cleaner to possibly pull the messenger line out thru an access point.
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Old 27-05-2012, 05:55   #17
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This sounds like justification to by a battery powered fiber optic flexible video set up. DeWalt sells one, and I think Milwaukee does also. Can be found at the Big Box Home stores.
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Topping lift moves when you pull on stuck halyard? Might be worth a try to spend a few hours alternating pulling each one in succession before spending any money.
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Old 27-05-2012, 07:19   #19
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Went out last night with the mirror and a flashlight. Tangled mess. I was dismayed to find that electrical wires are involved. Turned on all the lights and they all worked, but there's not a separate conduit? Who manufactured this thing. geesh. So today I will cogitate, muse then act somehow. Trying not to go too far with the thoughts of changing out the mast. But when all is said and done am thinking about running the two main halyards outside the mast somehow. Oh well, I'm retired , something to keep me occupied. Thanks for all the help everyone. I love this forum.
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Re: Halyard Jammed

WHen I heard the first prognosis tangled mess is what came to my mind.

I had a simular problem feeding electrical lines down the wall of a multistory building. I had someone at each floor to insure it was feeding smoothly, but one of the guys was off task, and about 30' of line backed up in the wall. I tried to go back up but it stuck, and tried to break it loos to gon further down, still stuck. When I finally broke down and cut the wall open, I found a ball with several loops intertwined. Once that happens it will go nowhere. Each time we tried to pull it it pulled the loops tighter, and got worse, and damaged the insulation so the entire spool was unusable, and had to be rerun.

Good you got a look at what you are looking at. if lucky you can find the end and pull slowely until loops untangle, but more likely you will have to cut the entire halyard out a few inches at a time.
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Old 27-05-2012, 12:51   #21
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Ok, solved. Ended up cutting it out. There was still 15 feet in there. Now up to the top of the mast I go. Thanks for all the help everybody.
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Ok, solved. Ended up cutting it out. There was still 15 feet in there. Now up to the top of the mast I go. Thanks for all the help everybody.
Notes to self

- Secure the messenger to the halyard with a sewn joint using sailmaker thread
- remove loops, shackles and anything that can hang up
- pull the halyards up the mast and out not down to remove. If the mess separates the "small" diameter messenger falls into the mast, not the halyard
- pull the new halyard up outside the mast and down. If the mess separates the messenger is in the mast and the new expensive halyard probably backs out the top and falls on the deck.

Secure the new halyard to the old halyard and make one pull if ya got the guts and confidence in your sewing skills.

Glad it worked out...
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