Extra winsches, Beneteau Oceanis 40, 2008

[wingmanII]

Hi

Beneteau Oceanis 40, 2008

Question:
Can you fit two extra winches at helmsman for hauling the mailsail (conversion to German sheeting)? Is there a place and reinforcement for it on the cockpit rim. Are there s and instructions where to put it? Is there anyone who have experience of this?

I imagine that the existing genoawinsches becomes mainsail winsches and new winshes becomes new genoawinsches.

There is nothing about this in the manual!

Grateful for answers!

Sincerely
Martin
Sweden

[jannw]

You might want to look at the two german mainsheet conversions on this page:

Hints & Tips

As they are pretty much what you probably want to do.

Both conversions utilise only the existing winches for genoa and main sheets, and jammers for the sheets.

Consider that you will always have the genoa sheet on the leeward winch, and you will generally prefer to trim the main on the high side windward winch. Also, when tacking, you generally don't grind the mainsail until after you have fixed up the genoa. Thus you can get away cruising with only two winches set up this way (unless you are planning to race ... then it is a different matter ... then you need both ;-)

[goboatingnow]

I'm not a fan of having the main control lines on the boat utilising Jammers And sharing one winch

Dave

[wingmanII]

Hi

Thanks...

I would prefer to install two additional winches. Is it possible for this Oceanis 40, 2008? It would have been perfect if there was a place intended for another winch with the reinforcements needed.

Martin

[MarkJ]

I guess your question means you haven't been aboard one?
Might be better to have a first hand look, it would only take a few minutes...

[jannw]

OK ... I'll do your research because you are too lazy ;-)

http://www.aibsailing.com/boatimages...ew_2007_01.jpg

Nope, there is no mounting point for a 2nd winch. As you can see on the starboard side the winch requires an offset for the sheet to lead fair from the turning block.

You could do what I suggested, and replace the turning block with a double turning block with integrated jammers ... that would work well for cruising.

You could build a mount which would allow a fair sheet lead for a 2nd winch (out of glass fiber or metal) ... not too hard, but certainly not part of the standard package, and you'll still be replacing the turning block.

However, your description, from the picture, your mainsheet would rub over your starboard combing.

J

[wingmanII]

Hello and thanks for the great answers!

However, I am not entirely happy with the solution. On the Swedish west coast, we can not hoist the sails and sail on a bow for a long time. It can be crowded and additional turns required. At a little higher wind speeds, you want full control of the mainsail. It seems, however, that all the French boats have this type, 3 yards from the helmsman.

However, I could not reach the image that you refer, link broken?!

I've been on twice in the last week when I was planning to possibly buy one this weekend. It was on my way home (250 km) from the boat at the second occasion that I fully thought the mainsail function.

Can I place additional winsches is the problem solved, then I can always add two more afterwards.

According to your knowledge this is going to be a bit tricky!

/Martin

[jannw]

there are always solutions -

no wear chafe guards for where the sheet would rub over the combing: No-Wear Chafe Guards

or a winch mounting bracket: SO34.2 Spinnaker winches