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Old 17-05-2013, 19:06   #1
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Choosing the right line...

I am buying a 54 ft line for my jib, and have NO idea what brand/type/quality of line this should be.

Treated ends....ya, lots of questions.

So, how does one go about this? The ft length was a recommendation from a friend... the boat is 28 ft and is not roller furl
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Re: Choosing the right line...

There's probably a Catalina 22 class website that will have this info, but for a 22ft non-extreme-racing sailboat, you probably won't go wrong with 1/2" Sta-Set from New England Ropes. Yale, Samson, and others, make similar lines -- basic polyester double-braid.

If this is all new to you, I suggest you find someone local to mentor you. It's definitely not rocket science, but you will probably have quite a few of these decisions to make as you get the boat set up. There's no point in doing it the hard way, or doing it wrong.

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If this is for the jib sheets, get New England Regatta braid. This is a polyester single-braid so no hocking/kinking etc and very nice grip with your hands and winch. 1/2" is nice to handle but 7/16 is available too and might even run a bit better for you.
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Re: Choosing the right line...

Thanks Jedi, I will go with that in 7/16 probably. I just coastal cruise and will be going to Catalina soon, other than that, nothing "racing" or anything nuts...I'm still a newbie

Paul, thanks, I am aware of the Catalina sites, have been doing Catalina 22s for a long time (15 years is long for me, even though I know not compared to others...gulp).

Please tell me about "treating the ends" as in what does that mean and what should I expect to spend, and what does it do??? Can I get away with not doing it???

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Ah, you're gonna have to do the whipping

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It's rather simple: go to your local chandlerie and ask for some whipping twine, a needle set and a riggers-palm. A hot knife is good to have too, but you can heat any knife with a flame and then cut, or they have cheap soldering iron based versions. The tool I use only makes sense if you do awnings, sails etc. the pictures should tell it all, it's easy
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Re: Choosing the right line...

"Treating the ends" is melting them, after you've whipped them, just enough so they can't ravel. We do it on the stove, but some people use a hot knife to do it. I've also seen heat shrink tubing used, and that gunk that folks use to cover metal tools like pliers handles. I guess, re-reading this, that even the whipping could be considered treating the ends. We treat and melt, FWIW.

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I am buying a 54 ft line for my jib, and have NO idea what brand/type/quality of line this should be.

Treated ends....ya, lots of questions.

So, how does one go about this? The ft length was a recommendation from a friend... the boat is 28 ft and is not roller furl
What size are your winches.. tell the chandler and if he's any good he'll look in a book and tell you the rope size... pre stretched is best..
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Re: Choosing the right line...

It's so nice being in the company of sailors that know how to do a proper whipping! The 'sailors' I work with just wrap their bitter ends with electrical tape and call it good... I even tried teaching them how to do a backsplice, since it's usually just 3 strand line and relatively simple. They're not interested.

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It's so nice being in the company of sailors that know how to do a proper whipping! The 'sailors' I work with just wrap their bitter ends with electrical tape and call it good... I even tried teaching them how to do a backsplice, since it's usually just 3 strand line and relatively simple. They're not interested.

Bunch of Farmers...
It's a fight that I have been loosing for many years here on CF. It is amazing what people come up with, from duct tape to some kind of sh!t they dip it in etc. None of it comes anywhere near the quality of a simple whipping. The stitching makes it outlast the rope it's on.
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It's a fight that I have been loosing for many years here on CF. It is amazing what people come up with, from duct tape to some kind of sh!t they dip it in etc. None of it comes anywhere near the quality of a simple whipping. The stitching makes it outlast the rope it's on.
Mmmmmm... can't beat a good Whipping.... hard to find these days... last one I saw was just outside Peshawar... '93 if I remember correctly... couple of hippies carrying pot..
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Mmmmmm... can't beat a good Whipping.... hard to find these days... last one I saw was just outside Peshawar... '93 if I remember correctly... couple of hippies carrying pot..
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Mmmmmm... can't beat a good Whipping.... hard to find these days... last one I saw was just outside Peshawar... '93 if I remember correctly... couple of hippies carrying pot..
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I hope you were not one of the hippies
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