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Old 26-12-2009, 14:46   #16
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On the knots versus shackles arguments, one must remember why OH&S type publications mandate shackles.

Shackles can be tested and manufactured to set standards and thus such "rated" hardware becomes a fixed known standard.

The tying of knots OTH is more subjective and cannot be controlled by the writers on the manuals and therefore remain an unknown value.

However, a well tied knot (and appropriately de-rated) would be IMO better than an unknown non-rated shackle.

If you can trust your own knots to secure your boat and take the enormous loads on running rigging, you should be confident going aloft on a knot, but if you are unsure of your ability with knots, go for "rated" hardware.

Knots are cheaper but only if done properly .

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Old 26-12-2009, 15:45   #17
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Originally Posted by speciald@ocens. View Post
I have gone up my mast to 85Ft in running seas with only minimal bruising despite 10 ft swings.
Ahhhhh! When we cruised the Caribbean we had a boatswain's chair. I used it once, at anchor, in calm seas, 52' mast. It worked fine; the masthead lights got replaced; and like a lot of boat things, the equipment was better than the sailor. I don't ever want to do that again. If it's not an emergency, hire someone - preferably from AS - what is that? American Samoa?

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Old 26-12-2009, 16:10   #18
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Knot, someone else...

When I got my lazy jacks and steaming light done I hired a professional rigger.

He secured his bosuns chair to the jib halyard with a knot, then climbed the shrouds using feet, legs, arms and hands. I'd have taken a photo but permission was refused.

I took the slack on the halyard using the winch as directed. The bosuns chair was for safety and resting only.

Expensive, but worth every penny.
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Old 26-12-2009, 16:15   #19
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Originally Posted by Ocean Girl View Post
To clarify I meant tie a short line encircling my waist and the mast.
That would help with prevention of brusing from seas, but imho would be a hazard otherwise.

Even if you only fell 3 or 4 feet and got stopped abruptly with a line around your waist, you would be in deep doo doo (possibly paralyzed) AND hanging halfway up the mast!

No thanks. If I fell, I'd rather be in deep doo doo on the deck.
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I read a story somewhere of a couple at sea, husband went aloft, tied a safety, had a heart attack and passed away while still at the mast head.
Wife spent the next five days motoring to port with no way of getting her husband down.

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