Cruisers Forum

Join CruisersForum Today

Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-08-2014, 14:46   #16
nigel1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Manchester, UK
Boat: Beneteau 473
Posts: 5,396
Re: Barber Hauler Madness

Originally Posted by Snowpetrel View Post
Hrmm 150% genoa's going to be hard, but worth a try.

One thing about your proposed setup is to watch the loads on everything. What can happen is with the barber hauler (BH) lead directly to the midships cleat, as the boom moves (fore and aft or up and down) it can tighten the BH. If the block is pulled all the way out it can really load things up, with no slack left, so leave yourself pleanty of slack and stabilise the boom with a preventer if its blowing.
Think I get what your saying, so best to take the line from the block at the end of the boom, then lead it along the boom towards the gooseneck, before taking it to a winch.
Certainly makes a lot more sense.
With most new things I try, it's always light airs to start with, and the boom is always prevented when downwind.


Beneteau 473
Manchester, UK
nigel1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2014, 16:42   #17
Registered User
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,705
Re: Barber Hauler Madness

Originally Posted by robert sailor View Post
Stick with barber hauling or throw a snatch block on the rail as a fairlead for the normal local sailing, moving it forward the further off the wind you are. If you decide to cross an ocean man up for a proper pole and you'll love it.
Good advice...there's an old but good book called SAIL POWER by Wally Ross that delves into the various slot-remedies and haulers. I have a '73 sloop with a vast, IOR J measurement (15 feet on 33' 7"!) and so barberhaulers and antique exotica like genoa staysails and whatnot.

One can only experiment!

Can't sleep? Read for fast relief. Can't read? Avoid, because it's just personal reviews of sea books.
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 13:14   #18
Dockhead's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The boat: Cowes (Winter), Above 60N (Summer); me: somewhere in the air!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 21,303
Re: Barber Hauler Madness

Another fabulous, fabulous sail today. We set out from Nyneshamn expecting NW winds and planning to go to Vaestervik. In the event, the wind was WSW. So we had to go S for some miles to squeeze through a gap in the rocks at Landsort before being able to lay in our course towards Vaestervik.

As we left Nyneshamn, sailing hard on the wind, we spotted a boat with black sails a mile or two ahead of us. So we piled on the sail to see if we could catch up. The barber hauler on the staysail has a marvelous effect for the first time (in five years of owning this boat), I can trim it for sailing upwind. And I am amazed that the staysail gives significant drive upwind. Other cutters Ive sailed never get anything from the staysails upwind. Maybe its because my 13 year-old yankee is a bit bagged out the flatter staysail helps attach the air flow to the yankee. Or something. In any case, we quickly overhauled what turned out to be a Bene First 37 with a roachy main, carbon-fiber sails, and a Swedish racing number. The skipper noticed us just as we were about to steal his wind, and set about getting his speed up. And so an impromptu race for Landsort ensued.

Immensely satisfying was the fact that we actually beat this guy through the gap. It was like dingy racing in days of yore, battling it out tack for tack. Of course with our baggy Dacron sails and cruising rig, there is no way we can sail as high as a Bene First with carbon sails, so we had to make it up in speed, using our waterline length advantage. We tacked back and forth, both of us steering by hand. I had an advantage in that I have an excellent Finnish guy on board crewing, whereas our opponent had only his somewhat sluggish wife. So our tacks were much snappier than his, and we carried a good bit more boat speed all the time, and so just managed to keep up with him despite his sailing at least 5 degrees higher than we did. It was just about neck and neck until the other guy made a fatal misjudgment he got a little too close to land on his last tack. We tacked inside him and walked away from him through the gap, as he lost time in the lee of the land. He gave us a cheery wave and thumbs up as we headed off out of sight.

Clear of Landsort, we realized it would be a slog dead upwind to Vaestervik, so we decided to divert to Gotland, by this time 65 miles off, bearing about 170 so allowing us to crack off a bit onto a close reach, my favorite point of sail in this boat. The wind backed and we ended up hard on the wind, expecting to tack at some point before we made landfall. But miraculously, the wind recurved as we approached Gotland, and we unexpectedly laid our mark without a tack. And tied up just before the sun went down (having sailed many miles South to 57 degrees North, we are getting reacquainted with the concept of night )

The barber hauler on the staysail made a big contribution to our getting in before dark

Dockhead is online now   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Boat Hauler Trucking Nightmare SailingYoungs General Sailing Forum 17 03-05-2011 15:13
Adler Barber Super Cold Machine bob_77903 Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 0 13-04-2010 10:48
Adler Barber Cold Machine Ron Bruce Product or Service Reviews & Evaluations 2 23-02-2010 09:20

Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 21:18.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.