Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-11-2012, 15:10   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Boat: Ranger 33
Posts: 3
Images: 2
Re: All the Stainless Wire Rigging is Rusting on One Strand?

I rerigged in May 2012 and by July, 2012 the lowers had the single strand rust problem. (Uppers are different diameter/different spool) Just got the rigger to 'clean' them. He thinks it won't come back. I'm watching it. I posted pictures in my account. He sent the pics to the Korean manufacturer so this is not expected/usual for him IMHO. Of course I'm being told 'don't worry about it'. We'll see. I'm on SF Bay so instead of 'milk' we've 'Got Salt'.
__________________

__________________
ringydingydo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2012, 15:21   #17
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Boat: Ranger 33
Posts: 3
Images: 2
Re: All the Stainless Wire Rigging is Rusting on One Strand?

Commenting on Kalinka's msg:
Could it be 304 wire instead of 316? 304 stronger but not so stain resistant in the tropics. I re rigged this spring with the 304 it discoloured quicker than the 316 in the salt water.

It is my 316 that rusted. The uppers are 304 and sparkle like the 15-20 year old stuff I replaced...
__________________

__________________
ringydingydo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2012, 15:59   #18
Senior Cruiser
 
Sailmonkey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Boat: '76 Allied Seawind II, 32'
Posts: 5,766
Quote:
Originally Posted by ringydingydo
Commenting on Kalinka's msg:
Could it be 304 wire instead of 316? 304 stronger but not so stain resistant in the tropics. I re rigged this spring with the 304 it discoloured quicker than the 316 in the salt water.

It is my 316 that rusted. The uppers are 304 and sparkle like the 15-20 year old stuff I replaced...
My 316 wire also candy striped. But it's been three years and hasn't gotten any worse.
__________________
Sailmonkey is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2012, 19:24   #19
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: All the Stainless Wire Rigging is Rusting on One Strand?

Quote:
Originally Posted by teneicm View Post

(...) Does this indicate that one of the strands was created with a lower grade steel? Does this put all the rigging into doubt, since all the shrouds are exhibiting this?

Cheers- Matt
It does indicate the rigging needs cleaning.

I did not notice any relationship between rusty marks and failure in our rigging nor in rigging of any of the boats I have sailed.

I did notice newer SS wire corrodes more than older wire. Probably change in manufacturing procedure / composition.

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2012, 20:34   #20
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2007
Boat: Privilege 482
Posts: 360
Re: All the Stainless Wire Rigging is Rusting on One Strand?

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
It does indicate the rigging needs cleaning.

I did not notice any relationship between rusty marks and failure in our rigging nor in rigging of any of the boats I have sailed.

I did notice newer SS wire corrodes more than older wire. Probably change in manufacturing procedure / composition.

b.
Well I hope you're right and we have the same luck as you- we've since put an offer on the boat and will be closing shortly. When we went back to do the survey, the striping seems to have mostly dissapeared- so perhaps it just needed a good rain to clean it off...
__________________
teneicm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 13:48   #21
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: All the Stainless Wire Rigging is Rusting on One Strand?

The rigging failures I have seen were:

- toggles (3x - the flat/plate toggles),
- wire failure just above/below swagged terminal (2x),
- backing plates (4x),
- chainplates (3x).

Replace and check your rigging and all associated hardware with generally recommended frequency and you are standing a very good chance of avoiding any rigging failure. Alignment and proper sizing are of paramount importance.

If it is a new (to you) boat you may resolve to replace all standing rigging (and associated mast/deck hardware) but this seems only worth it if you are going for an out and out cruising route - far offshore and far from any service points.

If in doubt, hire a local rigger and have them review everything and deliver a written report/opinion to you.

b.
__________________

__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
rigging

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:52.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.