World Wide Pump Out?

[Delancey]

River Thames 1.4 billion liters...

Thames water facing record fine for pouring raw sewage into River Thames | Metro News

You know, I was just curious and so started looking around. Now I wish I hadn't. Dirt dwellers make cruisers look like a drop in the bucket, if even.

Funny to me the bit about the Florida residents complaining. St Petersburg beaches are closed this week and it ain't because of a few cruisers...

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/a...-of-poop-water

[the old man]

Originally Posted by peghall

To get back to the original question...Turkey is the only nation I know of that rigidly enforces their NDZ regs...they do it from the air, looking for cloudy water around a vessel that indicates a dumped tank, and the fines if you get caught are huge. Never mind that there isn't a single pumpout anywhere in Turkey...making necessary to up anchor and leave Turkey's territorial waters the only way to empty a tank.

WRONG!!! As far as I know every marina in Turkey has pump out facilities in Turkey. Even in the small town where called Fethiye/Muğla Port there are many
discharge outlets. And in Fethiye Bay every marina has them plus a pick up boat servicing for yachts at anchor.
Please. be informed. Regards from a retired yachtie.

[Kokanee]

Originally Posted by Delancey

River Thames 1.4 billion liters...

Thames water facing record fine for pouring raw sewage into River Thames | Metro News

You know, I was just curious and so started looking around. Now I wish I hadn't. Dirt dwellers make cruisers look like a drop in the bucket, if even.

Funny to me the bit about the Florida residents complaining. St Petersburg beaches are closed this week and it ain't because of a few cruisers...

Florida beaches closed this weekend because of poop water | Blogs

Why do you say it isn't because of fellow cruisers? It happens because of the sum total of crap that flows into the ocean. Cruisers may only contribute a small percentage, but they are still part of the problem.

Just blaming the problem on a bigger source doesn't cut it.

[Delancey]

Originally Posted by Kokanee

Why do you say it isn't because of fellow cruisers? It happens because of the sum total of crap that flows into the ocean. Cruisers may only contribute a small percentage, but they are still part of the problem.

Just blaming the problem on a bigger source doesn't cut it.

True.

[peghall]

Obviously at least some of my information is obsolete! Thanks for the correction.

[Delancey]

I mean true, cruisers contribute. But the beaches in St. Petersburg aren't closed because of a few cruisers, they're closed because of the city dumping millions of gallons of sewage into the bay.

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by Tkeeth

I pee in the shower....

....which then discharges overboat....dont let the MIB catch you!

[Livia]

Pacific-wise: As far as I know, there wasn't a single pump out station once you left Mexico heading West until you reached NZ/AUS.

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by powsmias

the more i read about this, the more i'm leaning to a composting head.. my boat has a holding tank, soft bladder.. ..

Bear in mind though that "composting" toilets on boats really are not...they are dessicating toilets. Human disease pathogens dont survive a full composting process. However, dessicated waste I expect (dont know for sure) can hold viable pathogens...so you've still got disposal issue.

[Jim Cate]

In the immortal words of Australian author and yottie Alan Lucas, "When the treatment plant discharges one hundred megaliters of sewage into the sea, it is an incident. When a yottie discharges one liter, it is a crime". OK, i may have slightly misquoted Alan,but the message is clear.

And for Kokanee,

Why do you say it isn't because of fellow cruisers? It happens because of the sum total of crap that flows into the ocean. Cruisers may only contribute a small percentage, but they are still part of the problem.

Small percentage? Let's see, the municipal folks dump "billions of liters" while the yottie dumps a very few liters, or thereabouts. That small percentage is something like one part in a BILLION. That is an unmeasurable contribution, so to say they "are still part of the problem" is BS. One way to consider being "part of a problem" is to examine what would happen if their contribution was totally removed. Does the removal change the outcome in any way? If not, they ain't part of the problem IMO, and that is surely the case here.

No politician ever won a vote saying "it is ok to crap in the water'. No bureaucrat ever has said "we won't enjoy the revenue stream generated by fining yotties for illegal discharge". It is entirely unlikely for these rules to be rationalized, but that does not make them logical, effective in solving water pollution issuses or fair to yotties.

Jim

[powsmias]

Originally Posted by guyrj33

Can you make a small slit in the top of the bladder and insert a hose to pump out the bladder?
How is it plumbed that it can't be emptied?
Vacuum hose at the local pump out does a great job sucking everything out of our waste bladder.

Appreciate that.. another option i hadn't considered or thought of.. all the best

[markpierce]

For better or worse, the USA still leads the world in reducing pollution, but still gets hammered. We've lots of free do-it-yourself pump-out stations here.

[model 10]

Originally Posted by markpierce

Fed. We've lots of free do-it-yourself pump-out stations here.

How many work? Who the hell maintains these things? Nobody. The self rightous should keep them working. They could get brownie points.

[Kenomac]

Venice, Italy has always discharged all sewage untreated and directly into the canal system. Doesn't seem to bother the tourists on the gondola rides, the system seems to work fine, although I wouldn't recommend swimming in the canals.

Maybe some people are just a little too obsessed with treating, processing and discharging poop?

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by Delancey

Bondi Beach 4 million liters per day....

Raw sewage released near Bondi as decades of government dithering runs on

Surfs up!!!

Old Aussie joke: thought I was swimming at Bondi, but was just going through the motions...