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Old 06-09-2013, 20:37   #1
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What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

I just installed a new sanitation system in my Westsail 32.
I used premium parts and am very happy with my install.

I have one last decesion and that is for what 3/4" inlet strainer to buy?

I want plastic and was looking at this Groco.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...9#.UiqSFmt5mSM

Any recommendations?



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Old 06-09-2013, 20:50   #2
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

Why bother? If you do, that's as good as anything unless you want to go to a bronze Groco.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

We have that hooked up to our inlet. I wanted it not just to strain the intake but to put a tablet treatment in the basket. My friends use a chlorine tablet, actually, I believe it was a non chlorine pool tablet to keeps the biological growth at bay. I used the marine toilet tablets.
What I did not like about the smaller strainer. it didnt seem beefy for critical below waterline job. Getting good quality fitting in 3/4, fit for below the water, was difficult. Most of the beefy below waterline fittings are around 1 1/2. If I do it again, which I won't cause we are converting to composting head, but if I did it again, I'd leave it off or go with the bigger bronze strainer. It is overkill but I worry about that plastic strainer, I don't worry over our big intake strainers.
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Old 06-09-2013, 21:31   #4
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

Ocean Girl,
my install with the 3/4" plastic Groco unit would be above the water line.

Stu,
Why bother?
I thought the same and left out the strainer. After only 3 days of using my new system I sucked a small fish animal in through my intake hose into the pump (at the ball and spring) on my Raritan ph2 toilet.

I was like, WTF?!?!?, I can't be bothered with this again!

So I will be installing a strainer.

Anyone recommendations for a plastic unit?

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Good idea to use a strainer, but any will do. Make it easily accessible.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

when i installed my new raritan phII ten years ago i put this strainer in the intake line. it's been working ever since. mine is mounted low near the thru hull. i do worry sometimes just as i worry about all under waterline fittings.

Jabsco Pumpgard In-line Strainer
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Old 07-09-2013, 14:55   #7
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I bought the Groco WSB-750 today.
In my attached picture they specify that the WSB-750P model is for salt water use because it has a "non metallic" basket.
Does this have something to do with electrical interference when used with electrical pumps?
I bought the WSB-750 for use on my head's intake, it also has a 304 stainless basket. My head is a manual pump.

Should I use it or should I take it back and buy the WSB-750p?

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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

Has anyone else ran into this issue with this strainer?
I haven't been able to get in touch with Groco support (if there even is such a service).
Other raw water strainers use stainless filter baskets.
It seems the only difference between the WSB-750 and the 750P is the stainless vs. non-metallic baskets.

Why can't I use the 750 strainer for my head's intake?

West Marine doesn't even offer the 750P (salt use) models.

Non metallic replacement baskets are available from Groco for about $12.

Because...if this is the only issue between salt and fresh water use with the units I'd like to install this (WSB-750) unit today and order the non-metallic filter later. I'm sucking up too much debris in my anchorage.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

After 2 days searching the Internet I think I found my answer.

It appears that Groco has become sensitive for continuous running systems such as AC, refrigerations etc.

See the product description in the attached link.
Amazon.com: Groco ARG Bronze Raw Water Strainers w/ Non-Metallic Basket ARG1250P 1-1/4 inch NPT x 10.6 inch H: Home Improvement

My educated guess is that it would be totally acceptable for me to use my WSB-750 (groco's fresh water model) in my manual head's raw water intake.

Below quote taken from above link;

Product Description
The corrosion-proof non-metalic baskets are an advantage in continuous running or high usage installatons such as air conditioning generators or refigeration systems where the continuos flow of sea water shortens the filter basket life. Non-metallic baskets are interchangeable with metalic baskets.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

my jabsco inlet filter has a stainless steel basket. it's been working for ten years now on my manual raritan phII head so i guess it's ok.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

The 304 stainless basket will eventually develop holes. When it does, replace it with the plastic basket.

The intake strainer will help prevent one of the most common sources of odor from marine toilets. Without the strainer, sea weed will get into the rim around the bowl and rot.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

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The 304 stainless basket will eventually develop holes. When it does, replace it with the plastic basket.

The intake strainer will help prevent one of the most common sources of odor from marine toilets. Without the strainer, sea weed will get into the rim around the bowl and rot.
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I'm very happy with how it all turned out.
The entire sytem is new including the 50' roll of Trident 101 (1-1/2").
I should sell the approx 20 feet or so that is remaining.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

That's the exact type of strainer I was recommending , though I communicated it quite poorly.
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

I have learned alot from Peggy Hall although I haven't read her book yet.
Alot of books on my shelf. What does she recommend for sanitary/deodarizing tablets in the inlets filter baskets?
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Re: What is a Good Head Inlet Strainer (3/4")?

"What does she recommend for sanitary/deodarizing tablets in the inlets filter baskets?"

I've read her book and I don't remember Peggie recommending any of the tablets.
Most of them release chlorine and that will kill the good bacteria in your holding tank.

Peggie likes the Raritan chemicals.
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