See through propane tanks.

Jentine · 07-08-2006, 14:46

Never wonder how much propane is in the tank.
http://litecylinder.com/interior_20_cylinder.html
Great idea but only available in 20 lb. cylinders.

Jentine · 07-08-2006, 17:35

A 10 lb cylinder will be available in September.

SkiprJohn · 07-08-2006, 18:21

Aloha Jentine,
Wow!! Thank you. That is wonderful!!
Will the 5lb cost a fortune?
Kind Regards, --JohnL--

Lodesman · 07-08-2006, 19:07

Jim,

I like the idea of lighter weight and corrosion resistance for use aboard - any idea what they cost?

Kevin

Sunspot Baby · 08-08-2006, 05:51

Not only neat to see level, but no steel to corrode.

George

GreatKetch · 08-08-2006, 11:41

I got a pair of them from Fisheries Supply where they are about $100. A lot cheaper (and lighter!) than aluminum tanks.

The weight savings over steel is really impressive when it is time to carry them down the dock.

Alan Wheeler · 08-08-2006, 12:58

Are they Fire proof?????

Paul L · 08-08-2006, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Wheeler

Are they Fire proof?????

Surprsingly yes. Take a look at the test video http://www.litecylinder.com/video.html Paul

Strygaldwir · 08-08-2006, 13:02

We love ours. Most of the cruisers who have seen it love it. No issues with refilling in Bahamas, US or Turks and Caicos. Light weight and no rust. VERY slightly larger than the standard 20 lb tank, this is due mainly to the carrier. Going for 1 year now with no issues.

Keith

Strygaldwir · 08-08-2006, 13:07

Fire proof???? I am definately not interested in being around ANY propane tank that is going to be tossed into a flame!

They are DOT and TUV (? European standards?) approved.

Cheers,

Keith

Alan Wheeler · 09-08-2006, 01:10

Yeah I ask because knowing our Beuracratic Red tape brigade, they'll want miricles to be perfomed by the thing, just because it ain't built from metal.
However, in reality, I'm with you Keith. Umm actually, I'll be right behind you and if you are a bit slow you'll feel my boots as I go right over top of you.:-)
Reminds me of that T-shirt that has "Bomb Disposal Expert" on the front and on the back it has, "if ya see me running, try to keep up"

mudnut · 09-08-2006, 05:04

Hey Wheels,The add said "Many colours".If it comes in "Bumfuzzle Grey",It dosen't need to be fire proof,Lucky P&A haven't got enough money left to buy a Kiwi rugby team,Mmmm,"The all Greys",And befor ya tell me,I do not want to be reminded of who has the Bledislow.But one thing,"If there is a fire with a steel LPG cylinder and a fire with the new fandangle see-thru one"What would you forsee as to the outcome?"I have fought fires where steel LPG tanks have exploded and caused more damage than the actual fire would have in the first place,Not to mention the schrapnel side of things,although a fire on a boat is bad in its self and considering it was at the tank,what do you see as safest tank and for what reasons?.Mudnut.

Alan Wheeler · 09-08-2006, 13:40

Personaly, I see the see through tank as safer, but that is just a guess. It must have a greater insulative property than steel. But then, the other question would be, how much and how fast does it lose strength with extreme heat.
The steel tanks we have are supposed to be non-fragmental. If it blows, it opens up but remains in one piece. We have fusable blow off valves, so the tank once again is not supposed to rupture, but let off the pressure in a controlled burn. Not going to test mine to see if that works of course.
I imagine though, that all pressure tanks would meet an international standard of some form. Especially seeing as we have adopted much of the British standards and Ox and NZ seem to be similar.
The one hassle we have here in NZ is that every five years the tanks need re-testing. That is not cheap when compared to a new tank. Ally and I imagine these new tanks would be worth re-testing, but then there is a hassle with sending them away to get tested for us here. In a larger city, it wouldn't be a problem.

hellosailor · 09-08-2006, 17:45

Wheels-
"The one hassle we have here in NZ is that every five years the tanks need re-testing. That is not cheap when compared to a new tank. "
Does NZ require hydrostatic pressure testing on ALL tanks? Here in the US it is just for high pressure tanks, which ain't propane bbq bottles. The bbq bottles do have to be inspected every five years, but that's a whole other game. Some dealers will do it for $5, since it only requires filling the tank and checking the pressure, then looking it over for rust or damage. Other dealers will charge you $45 or more for the same service---which is the price of a whole new tank.
At least in the US, the consumer knows very little about tank inspection laws, so in the propane and scuba businesses, there are a lot of shops that frankly try to rip off the consumer on inspection fees. Big time.
I think the break line here is 1800#, tanks with less like CO2 bottles get something like 20 years between hydros, tanks over that get 5 years. Propane...gets no respect.<G>

Alan Wheeler · 09-08-2006, 21:54

Yes they have to be hydro'd. It costs about $35-45 here as well. A new tank can be got for about $50 when on sale.

07-08-2006, 14:46	#1
Jentine Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts Boat: Beneteau 393, "Blackthorn" Posts: 564	See through propane tanks. Never wonder how much propane is in the tank. http://litecylinder.com/interior_20_cylinder.html Great idea but only available in 20 lb. cylinders. __________________ Jim We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." --Aristotle

07-08-2006, 17:35	#2
Jentine Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts Boat: Beneteau 393, "Blackthorn" Posts: 564	A 10 lb cylinder will be available in September. __________________ Jim We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." --Aristotle

08-08-2006, 05:51	#5
Sunspot Baby Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Bern, NC Boat: Prout Manta 38' Catamaran - Sunspot Baby Posts: 1,257	Not only neat to see level, but no steel to corrode. George __________________ She took my address and my name Put my credit to shame Sunspot Baby, sure had a real good time Bob Seger

08-08-2006, 11:41	#6
GreatKetch Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 419	Great they are! I got a pair of them from Fisheries Supply where they are about $100. A lot cheaper (and lighter!) than aluminum tanks. The weight savings over steel is really impressive when it is time to carry them down the dock.

08-08-2006, 12:58	#7
Alan Wheeler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady Posts: 8,042	Are they Fire proof????? __________________ Wheels For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.

07-08-2006, 18:21	#3
SkiprJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii Boat: Cascade, Cutter, 42 - "Casual" Posts: 5,198	Aloha Jentine, Wow!! Thank you. That is wonderful!! Will the 5lb cost a fortune? Kind Regards, --JohnL--

07-08-2006, 19:07	#4
Lodesman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ottawa ON Canada Boat: 26' trailer sailer (starter) Posts: 1,072	Jim, I like the idea of lighter weight and corrosion resistance for use aboard - any idea what they cost? Kevin

08-08-2006, 13:02	#9
Strygaldwir Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Deale, Maryland Boat: SeaView - Privilege 37 Posts: 834	We love ours. Most of the cruisers who have seen it love it. No issues with refilling in Bahamas, US or Turks and Caicos. Light weight and no rust. VERY slightly larger than the standard 20 lb tank, this is due mainly to the carrier. Going for 1 year now with no issues. Keith

08-08-2006, 13:07	#10
Strygaldwir Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Deale, Maryland Boat: SeaView - Privilege 37 Posts: 834	Fire proof???? I am definately not interested in being around ANY propane tank that is going to be tossed into a flame! They are DOT and TUV (? European standards?) approved. Cheers, Keith

09-08-2006, 01:10	#11
Alan Wheeler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady Posts: 8,042	Yeah I ask because knowing our Beuracratic Red tape brigade, they'll want miricles to be perfomed by the thing, just because it ain't built from metal. However, in reality, I'm with you Keith. Umm actually, I'll be right behind you and if you are a bit slow you'll feel my boots as I go right over top of you.:-) Reminds me of that T-shirt that has "Bomb Disposal Expert" on the front and on the back it has, "if ya see me running, try to keep up" __________________ Wheels For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.

09-08-2006, 05:04	#12
mudnut Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 664	Hey Wheels,The add said "Many colours".If it comes in "Bumfuzzle Grey",It dosen't need to be fire proof,Lucky P&A haven't got enough money left to buy a Kiwi rugby team,Mmmm,"The all Greys",And befor ya tell me,I do not want to be reminded of who has the Bledislow.But one thing,"If there is a fire with a steel LPG cylinder and a fire with the new fandangle see-thru one"What would you forsee as to the outcome?"I have fought fires where steel LPG tanks have exploded and caused more damage than the actual fire would have in the first place,Not to mention the schrapnel side of things,although a fire on a boat is bad in its self and considering it was at the tank,what do you see as safest tank and for what reasons?.Mudnut.

09-08-2006, 13:40	#13
Alan Wheeler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady Posts: 8,042	Personaly, I see the see through tank as safer, but that is just a guess. It must have a greater insulative property than steel. But then, the other question would be, how much and how fast does it lose strength with extreme heat. The steel tanks we have are supposed to be non-fragmental. If it blows, it opens up but remains in one piece. We have fusable blow off valves, so the tank once again is not supposed to rupture, but let off the pressure in a controlled burn. Not going to test mine to see if that works of course. I imagine though, that all pressure tanks would meet an international standard of some form. Especially seeing as we have adopted much of the British standards and Ox and NZ seem to be similar. The one hassle we have here in NZ is that every five years the tanks need re-testing. That is not cheap when compared to a new tank. Ally and I imagine these new tanks would be worth re-testing, but then there is a hassle with sending them away to get tested for us here. In a larger city, it wouldn't be a problem. __________________ Wheels For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.

09-08-2006, 17:45	#14
hellosailor Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,993	Wheels- "The one hassle we have here in NZ is that every five years the tanks need re-testing. That is not cheap when compared to a new tank. " Does NZ require hydrostatic pressure testing on ALL tanks? Here in the US it is just for high pressure tanks, which ain't propane bbq bottles. The bbq bottles do have to be inspected every five years, but that's a whole other game. Some dealers will do it for $5, since it only requires filling the tank and checking the pressure, then looking it over for rust or damage. Other dealers will charge you $45 or more for the same service---which is the price of a whole new tank. At least in the US, the consumer knows very little about tank inspection laws, so in the propane and scuba businesses, there are a lot of shops that frankly try to rip off the consumer on inspection fees. Big time. I think the break line here is 1800#, tanks with less like CO2 bottles get something like 20 years between hydros, tanks over that get 5 years. Propane...gets no respect.<G>

09-08-2006, 21:54	#15
Alan Wheeler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady Posts: 8,042	Yes they have to be hydro'd. It costs about $35-45 here as well. A new tank can be got for about $50 when on sale. __________________ Wheels For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.

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