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Old 06-04-2015, 13:09   #1
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Remote bilge pump recommendation

that isn't made by Rule, Jabsco, or related companies.

I've had three Jabsco pumps go bad in less than three years, one less than a year. I've decided I'm done with Jabsco if at all possible.

I've read that Johnson pumps are pretty good but I'm hoping for some recommendations from others.

Anyone?
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

What's a remote bilge pump?
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What's a remote bilge pump?

It's for a remote bilge.


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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

Ahh,... he wants to protect the sump pump in his basement at home when he's out sailing..... :>)
I've had good luck with Rule's... not that I think they are a great piece of machinery! But I've only had the big ones mostly. If it's a small BP... they are usually junk in all brands that I've seen. It's amazing how much they want for a plastic piece of junk with a 12V motor....
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

Remote: the pump is mounted outside the bilge and can draw water from 6 or 7 feet lower without needing to be primed.

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Old 07-04-2015, 08:19   #6
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

The Whale diaphragm pumps seem to be pretty well regarded.
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

The Whale Super Smart Sub bilge pumps have some neat features. They are very narrow so they can fit into a narrow deep bilge, they can pump straight up & they have a built-in electronic water sensor switch. Whale SuperSub Smart IC 1100 Automatic Bilge Pump
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

I've got these Whale Gulpers on my boat and so far they've been working well. I've had the boat for nearly two years and no problems so far - no idea how long they have actually been installed on the boat.

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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

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that isn't made by Rule, Jabsco, or related companies.

I've had three Jabsco pumps go bad in less than three years, one less than a year. I've decided I'm done with Jabsco if at all possible.

I've read that Johnson pumps are pretty good but I'm hoping for some recommendations from others.

Anyone?
Stop the water from coming in.

Seriously, you may want to check that you don't have a connection back down the line that is corroded or loose such that the pumps have been running on low voltage.
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

Remember when installing a self priming vane type pump it should be located at a low point in the hose routing to keep water in the pump and impeller to prevent burn out of the impeller during the time it takes for the water from the bilge to get to it and after long periods of no use they will dry out anyway and may need primed also mount the pump with the motor up so when it leaks it will not run into the motor
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Remember when installing a self priming vane type pump it should be located at a low point in the hose routing to keep water in the pump and impeller to prevent burn out of the impeller during the time it takes for the water from the bilge to get to it and after long periods of no use they will dry out anyway and may need primed also mount the pump with the motor up so when it leaks it will not run into the motor
I was under the impression that only diaphragm pumps can pull and push water, no? Vane pumps suck air, therefore I would think they are not be able to pull (prime) only push and cannot serve as a remote pump.
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

The Whale Gulpers (220 and 320) are good pumps but are low volume. The centrifugal pumps - Rule or Whale submersible - are much higher volume pumps.
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

Since you are messing around with bilge pumps, you might want to install an event counter in line with pump. Now you will know how many times the pump has cycled since you last checked the counter. The inspection of the bilge tells you little if the pump is running to keep the water out, but the counter will.
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

A good plan is to use a "remote" diaphragm pump like the gulpers to empty out the every day water that gets into the bilge.

But then also mount a high capacity bilge pump so that it's above the normal accumulation and only kicks in when there's a lot of water going in. Also connect an alarm to it so you know that something is seriously amiss. You'll want to run a larger hose (with smooth insides) for the high-cap pump and might need to install a larger thru-hull.

The important thing is that both pumps would stay out of the water unless something unusual happens.
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Re: Remote bilge pump recommendation

Thank you for the recommendations and advice, everyone. Very helpful.
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