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Old 19-02-2011, 12:45   #16
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I've been looking at these a lot.I plan on slow cruising down the river.There is too much to see and explore without having to worry about trying to find a marina to pump out the tank.
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Overboard is illegal inside the "3 mile limit."

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yes,the liquid separates in the bowl and goes into a bottle to be poured out at a marina (or overboard).
Air Head Dry Toilet: Marine Composting Toilets - Environmentally Friendly Marine Composting Toilet System
It's just as illlegal to dump a jug of urine overboard as it is to dump a holding tank. And yes...urine DOES stink in the heat.

Unless you're on a no discharge inland lake, for about the same the price a Type I MSD is a better choice...nothing to separate or store. And the discharge is cleaner than most of the waters it's going into. Check out the PuraSan or the ElectroScan here Raritan Waste Treatment
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Old 19-02-2011, 16:25   #18
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What a waste, when you can just drag yourself behind the boat for a while.
Here's another solution: bumper dumper

The transom is a good place for it. However, I'd minimize heeling and try not to tack much...or install a seat belt!
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Urine is Sterile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine

Don't waste it, DRINK IT !!
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Aztec physicians used urine to clean external wounds to prevent infection, and administered it as a drink to relieve stomach and intestinal problems.
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How/where do you empty the 'liquid'? And can the urine sit in the container for days in a hot climate? I do like the composting idea.
You find yourself emptying them twice a day. It's a terrible thing if the pot fills. One person once a day is OK but two you've got to do it twice.

I cut the pedestal that supported the old marine head out and sika'd some non-slip plastic in its place. I'm over 6 ft and combined with the pedestal it was too high. Even flat on the floor they are tall. A short person would need a foot rest.

They are worth the effort but if you forget to empty that pea bucket once you'll be sorry.
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I know that and you know that...but--

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Urine is Sterile.

Urine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't waste it, DRINK IT !!
US marine sanitation law (40 CFR 140.3 and 33 CFR 159) doesn't make any distinction between urine and solid waste...the law prohibits the discharge ("includes, but is not limited to, any spilling, leaking, pouring, pumping, emitting, emptying, or dumping") of SEWAGE ("human body wastes and the wastes from toilets and other receptacles intended to receive or retain body waste.")

Which makes dumping a jug of urine overboard just as illegal as flushing a toilet directly overboard or dumping a tank in any waters within 3 miles of the nearest point on the whole US coastline.

Hey...I didn't write the law, I'm just the messenger. You got a problem with this, CHANGE the law!
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Oh. Ooops.

But you actually made a good point: marine sanitation laws--in fact, most environmental laws--were/are enacted to make politicians look good...they have nothing whatever to do with the environment.

And I'm stuck with passing the word about 'em.

Whee.
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Peggie,

What ever the case WRT the bad news you may bring, I am glad you are once again an active member of this site.

THanks on behalf of all the folks who you have helped.
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Here's another solution: bumper dumper

The transom is a good place for it. However, I'd minimize heeling and try not to tack much...or install a seat belt!

Just mount it on the swim platform.That way it will be self-cleaning while you are underway.
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Awwwwww....shucks...<blush>...I do appreciate those kind words!

Not sure what you mean by "ONCE AGAIN an active member"...'cuz I don't think I ever have been before. Otoh, the mind IS the second thing to go...
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Yeah it's a great head. We've had ours for several months now and I'd never go back to a wet system. But it is *much* larger than most people can imagine.
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You find yourself emptying them twice a day. It's a terrible thing if the pot fills. One person once a day is OK but two you've got to do it twice.

I cut the pedestal that supported the old marine head out and sika'd some non-slip plastic in its place. I'm over 6 ft and combined with the pedestal it was too high. Even flat on the floor they are tall. A short person would need a foot rest.

They are worth the effort but if you forget to empty that pea bucket once you'll be sorry.
I don't know maybe we're not drinking enough but we have lived aboard with an Air Head (same as Nature's head) for a couple years now and I've never had to empty the urine container more than once every two days max. Never twice in a day.

As for the smell, we've not had a problem and my wife is very picky about that sort of thing.

As for disposal of the urine. It goes overboard. I don't care what the regs say (its sterile and my conscious is clear), besides the chance of the CG seeing me doing it in the middle of the night are zip.
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I don't know maybe we're not drinking enough but we have lived aboard with an Air Head (same as Nature's head) for a couple years now and I've never had to empty the urine container more than once every two days max. Never twice in a day.

As for the smell, we've not had a problem and my wife is very picky about that sort of thing.

As for disposal of the urine. It goes overboard. I don't care what the regs say (its sterile and my conscious is clear), besides the chance of the CG seeing me doing it in the middle of the night are zip.
Twice a day isn't a neccessity but a precaution. I wonder if the urine tank is larger on the Air Head?

Can you imagine them arresting people for emptying your personal container (re:bladder) overboard? Same thing. Without the exposure.
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Yeah it's a great head. We've had ours for several months now and I'd never go back to a wet system. But it is *much* larger than most people can imagine.

Even though it's a composting head,how often do you have to empty it?
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