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Old 28-08-2009, 20:30   #61
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Er, there are many more NDZ's than that in the Maryland portion of the Bay alone.

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Old 29-08-2009, 08:12   #62
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There are two NDZs in Maryland. Herring Bay and the northern coastal bays.

Since all this boat has, right now, is a Lectrasan I suppose I will be needing to avoid those areas. I keep thinking an alteration of the plumbing to allow a holding tank would be a good thing.
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Old 29-08-2009, 11:54   #63
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Take a look at what's included in "Northern Coastal Bays". Avoiding the area rather limits your sailing options.
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Old 29-08-2009, 14:59   #64
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For now, for me, it doesn't.
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We recently purchased an older boat with 2 newer lectro scans. The odor coming from one on the units is just nauseating. The control unit must have been submerged at some point and is not good. To replace, it is about $500--question is, whether we just suck it up and purchase an entirely new system, or just replace the control unit. My husband called Raritan and they still make the same system. After reading this board regarding the plates, etc., I'm thinking there is more wrong than just the control unit and we should spring for a new system. In the meantime, we aren't using it. Does anyone know how to get rid of the stench while the old system is still here? We need to give the boat our own name and are seriously considering calling her "Stinky." Any advice is appreciated. BTW, I can see One With the Wind from my flybridge! :-) Funny I happened upon this forum.
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If the LectraSan is not working, it still functions as a pass through system. The LectraSan unit itself shouldn't have any odor problems unless it's leaking somewhere possibly from a bad gasket or crack in the case. You might start by replacing all the hoses from the toilet to the seacock with non odor leaking sanitation hoses. Have you washed down the entire head area including inside the cabinets. If the boat was partially submerged, there could have been back flow from the head. Last but not least, try flushing freshwater through the head. Saltwater when left to stand gets pretty odoriferous even if it's not effluent.

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Thanks for the advice. We will try your suggestions. Merci.

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Old 30-08-2009, 16:50   #68
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Peter O is correct. The hoses leading to the unit could have "stunk through". All sanitation hose will permeate the odor after enough time. I would wipe the hose with a wet paper towel. if the towel smells then the hose is shot and needs replacement. There is no possible treatment for "stink hose". A Lectrasan will never smell. When replacing hose you want to avoid low spots that can allow waste to settle. It should be a clear down hill run as much as possible.
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I have a lectra san and have had no issues, although I will definitely look into the condition of the plates.

Of course, I have a weird system. The first Y valve goes either overboard or to the Lectra san. The second Y valve goes from the Lectra san either overboard or to a holding tank. Even treated waste discharges are not permitted in Narragansett bay.

Why, you may ask, am I filling the holding tank with waste that has already been treated? It was either that or replumb the whole damn system.
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It is my understanding that sodium hypochloride (bleach) in concentrations used in USCG Type I treatment systems break down primarily into two compounds, water and salt.
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For a USCG inspected vessel, being compliant meant putting a crimped loop of wire through the handle and then a lock that keeps the valve in the closed position.
That's one way, the CFR's state the vessel operator must secure each Type III devise in a manner which prevents discharge of sewage. Acceptable methods include: closing the valve and removing the handle, padlocking the valve closed or using a non-releasable wire tie to hold each valve closed. The way it is worded does not prohibit other methods from being used.
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A much easier acceptable way is simply to install a lock similar to that used in automobile ignitions in series with the electrical power needed to operate discharge devices. The key must be put in a secure place where it cannot readily be found and used.

I find it a shame that Lectrasan units are prohibited from discharging overboard. As long as BIG BROTHER, be it at the fed, state or local levels continue to make compliance difficult, fewer boats will be in compliance. There is no reason to spend the big bucks for one of these systems; I would purchase one immediately if the ridiculous discharge laws were changed.

Do not believe for one minute that all those nice looking boats with smiling people with children and barking dogs, enjoying the harbor vistas have empty holding tanks courtesy of a local poop sucker.

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I find it a shame that Lectrasan units are prohibited from discharging overboard.
In some areas they are, but any discharge would be illegal in those areas. LectraSans are Type I MSDs are legal to discharge as long as you are not in NDZ.
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It is my understanding that sodium hypochloride (bleach) in concentrations used in USCG Type I treatment systems break down primarily into two compounds, water and salt.

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Which Type I system calls for the use of bleach? (That doesn't sound like a Lectrasan.)
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In some areas they are, but any discharge would be illegal in those areas. LectraSans are Type I MSDs are legal to discharge as long as you are not in NDZ.

Frank-- why bother???

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