View Poll Results: What Head Do You Have And Are You Satisfied With It Poll
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<$200 Manual Pump Head ~Satisfied
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41 |
20.10% |
<$200 Manual Pump Head ~Unsatisfied
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2 |
0.98% |
>$200 Manual Pump Head ~Satisfied
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41 |
20.10% |
>$200 Manual Pump Head ~Unsatisfied
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2 |
0.98% |
Vacuum Head ~Satisfied
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20 |
9.80% |
Vacuum Head ~Unsatisfied
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0 |
0% |
Electric Head ~Satisfied
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41 |
20.10% |
Electric Head ~Unsatisfied
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6 |
2.94% |
Composting Style Head ~Satisfied
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34 |
16.67% |
Composting Style Head ~Unsatisfied
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1 |
0.49% |
Bucket And Chuck It ~Satisfied
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4 |
1.96% |
Bucket And Chuck It ~Unsatisfied
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0 |
0% |
Other...?
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6 |
2.94% |
Porti Potties! Duh! ~Satisfied
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4 |
1.96% |
Porti Potties! Duh! ~Unsatisfied
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2 |
0.98% |
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11-12-2013, 17:40
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#91
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wash DC
Boat: PETERSON 44
Posts: 3,165
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Meant it to be a humorous assumption. I had standard heads for years. I remember 2 times really having major issues. So far lavac and vaculflush not a one . Doesn't explain why the percentage of compost users exceeds the number of standard head users in the poll. When in real life we know most heads are standard pump old school gear.
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12-12-2013, 00:26
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#92
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Holland
Boat: 9mtr motorboat
Posts: 33
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sabray
Interesting statistics. My interpretation if you have a compost head you are more likely to vote then other people that have heads. If you have a standard pump head and voted you are a liar, optimistic, very lucky or are most satisfied disassembling a head. manual head owners are less likely to vote or are busy fixing their head so they can feel satisfied. Vaculflush and lavac owners are thinking about composting but really don't want the satisfaction of working on a toilet and in their leisure are likely to vote. Porta pots and baggers are satisfied easily. Unlikely to vote. They have different priorities and aren't worried if splash or bag wins. What the other is scares me. I had a dog once that wouldn't go on the boat. So maybe another option should be holders.
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Thanks for the laugh, I have to agree, anyone that voted for a standard Pump head just likes to get their hands dirty.
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12-12-2013, 01:17
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#93
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike OReilly
I agree with Jim K here. It's our nature (as in human-nature) to love what is yours, no matter how bad it is. So it's not surprising most people are satisfied with their current choice of head.
Perhaps someone could design a poll asking people: "What head did you switch from?" This might be more revealing, although the number of permutations would be rather extensive...
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I think, as long as a toilet still works, the owner will put up with it as it is a sh**y job to replace
Which brand of marine toilet you replace the old one with is more a function of energy and financial budgets, available space, plumbing considerations and experience using the short listed replacements.
Generally, you get what you pay for so if you replace a cheap Chinese manual heads with the same model, then you must be easily satisfied or masochistic
If I were to replace the Tecma, I would seriously consider the Headhunter venturi flush types as they can flush anything thru the system
Headhunter, Inc - Single Station
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12-12-2013, 04:54
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#94
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: La la Land
Boat: 37' Oyster Heritage
Posts: 416
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Fit a Lavac. the finest marine head ever made. Even has poetry written about it.
Ode to the Lavac
I must go down to the heads again, to the broken seat and ask why
Does the lid not fit and the pump not work, however hard I try ?
And the valve's stuck, and the vacuum's gone, and my guts are crying
For a peaceful ****, with a detailed book on lunar alts rising.
I MUST go down to the heads again, I can no longer be denied,
It's wild call and a clear call, though I still retain my pride.
And all I need is small container, perhaps a black rubber bucket,
A dash below, and then on deck, to leeward I will chuck it.
I MUST GO down to the heads again, the seal is quickly mended,
And the pipes are all cleared, and the outlet works as intended.
All I ask is that the suction sucks, and the smile upon my face
Will 'clipse the sun rising; it's not surprising, the heads is a calmer place.
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12-12-2013, 08:41
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#95
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 8,453
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Sestina, Thanks for the merry yarn from a laughing fellow rover!
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12-12-2013, 11:58
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#96
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35'
Posts: 1,200
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Tho Ocean Girl said this poll was about the toilet only... Sedna's PO placed the holding tank forward under the vberth with miles of tubing and various valves. All that tubing and looping didn't make up for the tank being located higher than the head.
I figured with all the cost and effort of replacing the tank and plumbing, I might as well go with an environmentally friendly composter.
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12-12-2013, 12:09
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#97
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
Posts: 4,115
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
I love the Ode! Only someone who has been there, in the trenches of marine sanitation, could of written that
Yes, this Poll is strictly head. I want to do a poll for sanitation hose, tank, vents, but I have not decided how I'm going to divide it up. I really think identifying the weakest link in marine sanitation could help future poor souls just starting their journey in this subject.
Thanks all for voting and contributing. 145 votes!! Still trying for 1000.
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12-12-2013, 13:57
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#98
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
You have a mind in the sewer OG for taking on this topic. I changed from electrosan after it clogged for the nth time and I brought my poor stinky boat into Friday harbour.
The shipwright smiled and said "I get 65 hour for my usual work, but if it involves poo I get 150 an hour and the captain can't wait to pay it!"
I got a lavac for one hours pay and haven't looked back...
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12-12-2013, 16:08
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#99
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Fantastic feedback thanks
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12-12-2013, 18:04
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#100
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Earlier I posted of my satisfaction with my simple hand-pumped head and I've truly had great success with the simplicity; however, I should share an anecdote regarding my worst head duty of all time. In 1975 Nancie and I took our first cruise to the Bahamas with three friends on board. When we were departing from Lake Worth, Florida I introduced everyone to the mechanics of the head and instructed them that they could put anything into the head as long as they ate it first. I joked with this and allowed a little additional toilet paper, but I was sincere about my concern that the system not be clogged. I thought my rule was foolproof, but after five days into our cruise the head failed,- hoplessly clogged. Of course the task of taking the device apart was mine and it was a disappointing task. When all the components were removed I found that the joker valve was packed with the fibrous cellulose husks of sunflower seeds. It's true! One of the crew was in the habit of eating sunflowers seeds and swallowing the undigestable husks. My rule was flawed. You can not put anything into these marine heads simply because you've swallowed it first!
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12-12-2013, 18:21
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#101
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: East Coast North America
Boat: Down East Yachts, Downeaster 38
Posts: 294
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Lavac, love it. I always had a loose plan to install a Lavac "one of these days" but that day came soon when my old W-C Imperial, that I had rebuilt, spit poop back into my wife's face. So, that was the end of that head and the Lavac was on order as soon as we got back home.
It was really easy to install, but my holding tank setup left a lot to be desired. My boat was built before the proliferation of all the no discharge zones so the holding tank fitted some time later into cabinet in the V-berth. It also have very poor ventilation. So a stinky holding tank, (taking up storage room to boot) right next to my head when I sleep was not a long term solution. So now, along with a replacement of my cabin sole, I'm installing a 25-35 gal. holding under the sole in the head and v-berth. It's going in to a space that was otherwise unused, so I'm not giving anything up, plus I get that cabinet back.
Planning on having Raritan quote the custom holding tank. Does anyone have any experience with custom built tanks? Anyone else I should look to for a quote?
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12-12-2013, 19:37
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#103
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bethflkys
I am dissatisfied because it is WICKED* noisy and I am a middle aged woman who uses it a couple of times during the night. I feel like I'm waking up the entire marina! It works well, but is noisy and uses up the fresh water. )
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My husband put an electric head (add on) in for a surprise for me. I flushed it once & the sound vibrated off all of the hard surfaces of the head. It scared the $#!+ out of me. It came back out & put the pump version again. Not satisfied with that electric.
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12-12-2013, 21:00
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#104
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
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We have two Jabsco Quiet Flush electric heads, both freshwater plumbed.
No complaints. In seven years, there have not yet been any surprises.
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13-12-2013, 21:28
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#105
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
Posts: 4,115
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Re: Head Poll -What Do You Have, satisfied?
Installed the jabsco twist-n-lock manual on Ocean Girl, liked it, no issues.
Bought $1000 groco, for Rain Dog, had issues galore.
150+ votes, thanks
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Air Head, C Head, composting Head, Deccicating head, Electric head, head, Jabsco Head, lavac, Manual Head, Natures Head, poll, raritan, toilet |
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