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Old 03-01-2013, 08:38   #1
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Head ID help-photo

Hi friends,
Here's a shot of one of the heads on our Cambria 44, 1984. Just what is this lovely...?
Thanks,
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:06   #2
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Looks like a "Wilcox - Crittenden" from England.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:54   #3
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yep, wilcox crittenton skipper model. I have one
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I had one years ago and it looked pretty grotty although it owrked well. I took it home and sand blasted it. It looked great and curiously never stained or developed a patina so I left it unpainted.

A number of years later anchored off Key West the little bronze cam wore out. Jump in the dinghy to West Marine and yes they can get me a cam for only $120.00 (in three days). They also had Jabsco plastic heads on sale for $90.00..... My Wilcox Crittenden is now part of the reef off Key West.
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Re: Head ID help-photo

Well, Boatpoker,

We are full time liveaboard cruisers, and I have had a Wilcox Crittendon, and a Jabsco plastic toilet, and I think the W-C was preferable. The big drawback to plastic is that the stainless screws tend to crack it when you tighten them, even though you're being really careful not to. Once we solved the problem of the leathers by replacing the plunger with a disc, shaped for an O-ring seal, it worked flawlessly for years. I felt sad when I learned our old one had gone to the dump, because, we'd have installed it on our new boat, rather than the Jabsco we presently use. So there you go, different strokes for different folks. Perhaps you could have had a new cam fabricated for your old one, some places such jobs can be done relatively inexpensively.

Dennis, consider keeping yours, the one we had was easy to understand, work on, and didn't require much working on, anyhow. Just my two cents.

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My wife was not prepared to wait three days for the cam.
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Re: Head ID help-photo

Your toilet is a Wilcox-Crittenden "Winner," made in the 1930s and '40s. Later W-C models included the Skipper, Junior, Imperial and a budget compact, the Headmate. Except for the Headmate, W-C toilets were top of the line bronze work horses, designed and built to last 100 years--the "Rolls Royces" of marine toilet sand priced accordingly--well over $1000 in today's dollars. A $120 cam would have been a bargain for any of those models, but unfortunately boatpoker chose to trade his "Rolls" for a "Yugo" instead. He'll have to replace it at least 10 times before he'd have had to put any more money into his Wilcox.

W-C was an American company, bought out by Thetford about 10 years ago. Thetford discontinued the entire W-C line about 5 years ago to concentrate on "disposable" toilets that only last a few years instead. The only parts still available from Thetford for any W-C tolets are rebuild kits and whatever hardware is still left in inventory. You might be able to find some from other sources by googling "Wilcox-Crittenden "Winner"...you never know what's been sitting on someone's shelf for decades.

I have the drawings, parts list and photos of the Winner...I'll be glad to send 'em to you if you'd like to email me.
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Old 04-01-2013, 23:53   #8
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Thanks All for the definative ID. There are two aboard and I haven't had a chance to work on them yet as so much else on the boat has needed attention.

The Cambria line was built with top notch equipment throughout and it doesn't suprise me to find the heads were first quality. That doesn't protect them from the ravages of time and neglect though.

I'll start on them this weekend perhaps. If I can muster the intestinal fortitude.
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