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Old 04-03-2011, 19:28   #1
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Engel Refrigeration

Looking for info from boats with Engels aboard.
1) Are you happy with em
2) do they throw off a lot of heat (we would like to put one under our slaon table)
3) what is your average draw during the summer months

and anything else you'd like to add

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Old 04-03-2011, 19:37   #2
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Re: Engel refrigeration

Can't comment firsthand Erika, but Rebel Heart mentions using one here
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at 1-3 amps & about a 15-20% duty cycle.
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Old 04-03-2011, 20:10   #3
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Looking for info from boats with Engels aboard.
1) Are you happy with em
2) do they throw off a lot of heat (we would like to put one under our slaon table)
3) what is your average draw during the summer months

and anything else you'd like to add

Thanks,
Erika
Erika:

I've had an Engel unit on board about ten years. Great units started out just using it for refrigeration:
http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-works-whats-cool.html

Then this past season tried an experiment using it as a freezer and froze bottles of water that I then put into a regular cooler. That work really great too and how I will probably use it from now on:
THE BIANKA LOG BLOG: IS THIS A COOL WORLD OR WHAT!

The Engel I have draws a little under 3 amps and my two 75 watt solar panels have no problem keeping everything topped up. They are great units and don't put out a lot of heat. But, I'd recommend that you do want to give them some space on the side where the compressor is located i.e. don't box it in completely.
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Old 04-03-2011, 20:15   #4
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I have had mine for 4 (5?) years now... very happy with it.

It is an 27, which is about the right size for us. It draws 2.4a when running (IAW our Link 10 monitor). In temperate climate it will run VERY little if you are not in it often... in the summer (FL and Bahamas) it would run more, but mostly when opened... very reasonable.

What I like most about it is that it is quiet, more so then some installed systems. The heat it puts into the cabin is not an issue for us, and we are on a smaller boat where it would be noticed more.

THey sell a fancy mount, I passed on that since it has good handles that allow it to be easily secured.

I also passed on the insulated blanket, some say it improves the performance... one thing I do is to cover the lid with a towel since where it is located the sun can shine directly on it when the hatch is open...

I am happy with mine, as are all the people I have spoken to who have them. Like much good boat gear, they are expensive... but you get what you pay for.


It will freeze if set above 1.5, and
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Re: Engel refrigeration

Hmm... I had love/hate relationship with mine. OK I am going back 20 years when I had it on the boat so the units may have changed since then.

Pros: Easy to buy and just plonk on board, always worked (in fact my 20 year old engel still works even after sitting unused for some years).

Cons: poor (thin) insulation, takes up a lot of space compared to a custom unit built to fit your boat, not very efficient (due thin insulation and static air condenser).

I ended up building a custom box around it (except for the condenser end) that had an extra 1.5" insulated sides, 1" insulated bottom and 2" insulated top.

If I was doing it again, I might add some flat fans against the condenser tubing.

I can't recall the actual current draws but it wasn't over the top.

But it really depends on your ambient temperatures, I found my set up was OK for cabin temps around the mid 20's (C) but pretty sad once temps went above the low 30's (C).

Previously I had a custom built unit with about the same internal space but with 4" of insulation and a remote static water cooled condenser and it was at least four times more efficient but cost 3 times the price and took weeks to install.

So all in all, I liked the Engel but it wasn't great, rather it was just OK (and tough).
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Old 04-03-2011, 21:40   #6
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I am thinking of buying the 40 quart cooler ($850) and building a box in front of companionway to install it in. Open where it needs to vent. My bridgedeck is only 4 inches so this would act as a more proper size bridgedeck and no changes in cabin. For now a small cooler and frozen water bottles work but it would be nice to have a permanent DC powered one in the future.
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Old 04-03-2011, 22:59   #7
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Re: Engel refrigeration

I have one..draws about 3 amps.
It was bought new 2004 and used and abused it as a "work" fridge during my refit (up until last summer) it was amazingly quiet, and had excellent temp control. I cant realy say as I noticed it being hot, although I know it should have had a fair discharge.
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Thanks for the input!
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Re: Engel refrigeration

Got our Engel45, plugged it in, set it to 3, and went to the movies (Source Code -good movie). Got back three hours later, thermostat read 6.6 deg F! What a great product.
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Then this past season tried an experiment using it as a freezer and froze bottles of water that I then put into a regular cooler. That work really great too and how I will probably use it from now on:
Freezer Blocks seem to capture and hold cold better than bottled water - and smaller in size. Used to get around 3 days out of them in a cool box (Northern Summers). Downside is that you can't drink them when they defrost

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Got our Engel45, plugged it in, set it to 3, and went to the movies (Source Code -good movie). Got back three hours later, thermostat read 6.6 deg F! What a great product.
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Yeah we have the same model I believe. It's really a great product. And if you have a problem with it you don't need to gut the boat to fix it.
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Old 13-04-2011, 14:47   #12
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Re: Engel Refrigeration

Mine has been plugged in for 4years and has never missed a beat. It's under the table on Turtle and at a bit past "2" it keeps my beer at a lovely 32* summer or winter here in Houston. No/little noise and no noticable extra heat in the cabin. I love my Engel........m
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I have 2x engels a 40L and a 38L we bought them in 2002 and they havent been off ever since, they draw roughly 3.2 amps, they are the bees knees ! and they dont give off any heat that iam aware of-cheers andy
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We use ours for extra storage when we're out for a few weeks. Use it mostly for bulky items, like lettuce and other veggies. Don't have to turn it very cold, so uses less electricity.
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