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12-12-2018, 09:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Cruiser
Boat: Shannon 50
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Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Does anyone have experience replacing their built in cabinet top-down ice boxes with the standalone/drop-in units from Engel or other manufacturers (ie. Dometic, etc). With some cabinetry rework and vents for expulsion of the built in compressor heat, these coolers (which can run off AC/DC power) seem to be the least expensive and most practical way to re-engineer a sailboats freezer and/or refrigerator. Good warranty and replacement would be simple.
https://www.engelcoolers.com/shop/12...-freezers.html
Any issues, concerns, recommendations etc are appreciated.
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12-12-2018, 10:32
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Toronto summer rest somewhere else
Boat: Outremer 45/pdq36
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
I bought five engles for various members of my club several years ago , all of which are working well. Some go home in the off season to serve as extra ice storage in the off season . My one has done 3 seasons in the Caribbean with no issues. Some other members did the same thing this year with the dometic product and out of three one did not work and was returned.
I just had a locker built for mine in the cockpit
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12-12-2018, 11:31
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Cruiser
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Thank you for your feedback. very useful. after doing added searches on this site, I found a significant amount of information on this.
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12-12-2018, 12:02
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Tampa Bay
Boat: Gemini 105Mc
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
My original "front door" type Dometic fridge wasn't preforming very well. So we now use that as dry storage. We now have two Engel MT45's in our starboard quarterberth. One is a fridge, the other is a freezer. They are very efficient. If plugged in to both 110v and 12v outlets, they will automatically switch to the available power.
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12-12-2018, 12:28
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Thank You !
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13-12-2018, 09:34
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Panama City Beach, FL
Boat: Beneteau 343
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
I replaced my built in with an Engel portables with a bit of cabinet adjustment (not too hard) and I loved the unit so much I bought another to put forward in the v-berth. I run one as a freezer and one as a fridg. Great units.
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13-12-2018, 09:51
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: town near Miami, FL
Boat: Allmand 31
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
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13-12-2018, 12:52
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Viking, 9.4m,
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
After my built-in eutectic fridge died and was too old to repair, I bought a portable Waeco Fridge Freezer (Similar to Engels) and located it in the forepeak - well tied down. No structural changes needed. A bit of extra wiring, a fused line direct from house battery. Not a large capacity, though it could be with a bigger unit. The old fridge/freezer space is now just a cool food/drinks storage space. The good thing is it uses little power, and is quiet. No trouble for years.
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13-12-2018, 12:53
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 19
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Love my Engel! 100% for 3 years in PNW. Bonus for me is the ice box is now storage for dry, fragile foods. I’ve had it running for up to a week with very little draw on the batteries.
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13-12-2018, 14:29
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Sharbot Lake Ontario
Boat: Albin 25
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
I installed a Unique 60 liter top loading fridge/freezer (12/110) 2 years ago. It has 2 compartments, and you can designate which is freezer and which is fridge, or both one or the other. It runs all summer on my 260W solar panel, no shore charging, although it so far sees only weekend open/close activity. Absolutely love it! And the sunlight is free . . . the unit costs under $700 CAD. Below is my pre-existing icebox, and my new Unique fridge/freezer.
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13-12-2018, 14:36
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
Boat: Paper Tiger 14 foot, Gemini 105MC 34 foot Catamaran Hull no 825
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Dometic own Waeco, Not too sure about who owns Engel,
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13-12-2018, 18:12
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Brisbane Australia
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
We have had many Engels when we did a lot of Bush bashing and treated them poorly none expired until well after they should have. Great product.
As luck runs our fixed fridge freezer has died and I have had a look at replacement...... Engel now make a DIY unit, but with very little info on their site. I have rung them for more info so we will see what comes.
I'll start a new thread to see if anyone has experience with it.
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13-12-2018, 18:29
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,416
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_S
We have had many Engels when we did a lot of Bush bashing and treated them poorly none expired until well after they should have. Great product.
As luck runs our fixed fridge freezer has died and I have had a look at replacement...... Engel now make a DIY unit, but with very little info on their site. I have rung them for more info so we will see what comes.
I'll start a new thread to see if anyone has experience with it.
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SCQT5408F :: Ice Box Conversion Kit F-Series Compressor
Is this the one you refer to?
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13-12-2018, 18:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: On the boat; Bahamas November-May, East Coast of US May to November
Boat: Beneteau 49
Posts: 76
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Our first two years of cruising were a nightmare due to the fact that our built-freezer froze stuff when it felt like it. My favorite daily conversation with my husband was "what are we having for dinner?", with the reply being "I don't know, let me see what's defrosted that shouldn't be"!!! Anyway, we ended up buying an 85 quart Whynter (similar to Engel but much cheaper - available through Home Depot and Amazon) 85 quart chest freezer, and stuck it in our third cabin (the "garage"). The former freezer is now our second refrigerator (along with our "college refrigerator" under the counter - pretty useless for anything large!) and our liveaboard lives have improved 100%. Aesthetically not that pleasing (looks like a big old ice chest), but love it anyway! Ice cream anyone?
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13-12-2018, 22:39
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Far North Queensland Australia
Boat: John Pugh / Currawong 48/OAL
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Re: Engel, Dometic Freezers & Frig Box products
Macconews Yes have done this I installed a Weaco 40ltr portable within an insulated box leaving vents as on the unit but have the weaco lid exposed and used as the door . This unit has been in service as a freezer for around 10 years and is only turned off for defrost a couple of times a year. Last year I installed a second unit as a freezer as well, will change my refridge to similar ( 100ltr) to same setup if it fails. Sooo I say great setup and if you have unit fail you can lift it out and take it in for service ( here in ozzie a fridg mech is $100 just to get them to your boat) so you will not have that rip off. Cheers Jacko
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