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Old 27-04-2010, 12:57   #1
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Campingaz: Regulator or Just Valve ?

Hi folks,

Now we have arrived on the doorway to the gateway of Europe we know our Aussie and US cooking gas bottles dont work.

Camping Gaz is the rule.

So I have stocked up on one If you could call a 2kg bottle 'one'. It will last about a week so I really want to call it a 'half'.

It has not got a regulator, but I was sold a valve to go straight into the line.

Is this OK or am I gunna blow myself up?



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Old 27-04-2010, 13:29   #2
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And ➥ Galley Upgrades

A standard low pressure gas appliance (stove) operates at about 10-11 inches water column, or 0.36 PSI, or 25-30 millibar pressure.
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unless you have high pressure butane stoves, which is unlikely , you will need a regulator. the normal CG one is blue. what you have is probably a high pressure valve

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Old 27-04-2010, 18:11   #5
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Get a regulator....don't take a chance.
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Old 27-04-2010, 23:05   #6
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Thanks guys

I was going to connect it up and then let Nicolle test it while I was at the shops. I guess you don't like that idea either?

More money to spend.

Woe is me.
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Think your main problem will be getting hold of a regulator.
I use the 2.7kg cylinders, (907 cylinder), and a regulator is definitely needed. UK price is about US $ 7.
Usually coloured blue
Gaz Regulator for Camping Gaz Refilable bottles from Surplus and Outdoors / Camping Accessories
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A valve would hove a hole right through it when the tap is open, wouldn't it?
This doesn't have a hole right through it.
When open there is a solid wall. On the outlet side I can see the small hole in the base on the tap side and holding it up to the sun I can see some light reflected inside, but not direct sun or light.

No one here speaks English so I can't get any help at all. The internet doesnt help either.
The rugulators on the net all seem to have a round disk. Whats that and what does it do?

the cost of the thing, in brass was about US$5 so probably equivilant to a UK GBP7 regulator.

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Mark, as Nigel says you need a regulator which screw directly to the gaz cylinder something like this.

Gas Fittings

I have no idea what that brass thing you have does, but I would suspicious.

A 907 Gaz cylinder has 2.7kg of Gas, should last you a good couple of weeks and easy to replace throughout Europe. 904s are half size.

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Hi Mark, I summoned my enginerring squad to the bridge, once they had gotten used to daylight, the valve you have has been indentified as a flow control needle valve, which could be said to be a regualtor, but a manual regualtor, which is not what you need, or indeed does Nic need, for the stove.
At least it was a reasonable price, not bad for Egypt
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Hi Mark, I summoned my enginerring squad to the bridge, once they had gotten used to daylight, the valve you have has been indentified as a flow control needle valve, which could be said to be a regualtor, but a manual regualtor, which is not what you need, or indeed does Nic need, for the stove.
At least it was a reasonable price, not bad for Egypt
Quick! Get that lot back down the bilges where they belong!

The high state of workmanship on the valve is due to the fact we are in Turkey, not Egypt

OK, Thanks for your guys and you advice.

What you are saying is its a cheap crappy regulator made in a cheap country where life has a less value than, say, anywhere else on earth.

That is kinda what I thought.

Mind you, cheap and crappy can often outlast and outperform meticulously designed complicated high pricepoint crap.

Its really Crap Vs Crap.

A regulator for solo sailors.

Batchelors.

But you and your team think Nicolle is worth more? Only on her good days!
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The rugulators on the net all seem to have a round disk. Whats that and what does it do?
The purpose of a regulator is to provide gas at a pressure slightly above atmospheric, for the stability of the flames at the burner. Since the atmospheric pressure keeps changing, the regulator must adapt. This is the purpose of the round disk: there is a pressure-sensing diaphragm inside, controlling a valve.

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Since the atmospheric pressure keeps changing, the regulator must adapt. This is the purpose of the round disk: there is a pressure-sensing diaphragm inside, controlling a valve.

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Bonjour Alain.
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Thanks for that information! That puts me in the picture


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