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Old 05-06-2007, 18:03   #1
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Are Waeco's as good as they claim to be

A Waeco refrigerator I was looking at claimed to use 50 watts and in a 24 hour period would run approximately 6 hours in 30C (around 90f). This works out to be 3 amps a day which seems a very optimistic estimate. I have a friend pushing me towards an Engle, are Waeco's that good?
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This works out to be 3 amps a day which seems a very optimistic estimate.
Not very likely. Here are the specs:

Average running time: 25% at 68°F ambient temperature, 40% at 86°F ambient temperature at 41°F interior
3.75 amps

At 40% duty that would be (24 x .4 x 3.75) = 36 amp hours per day. For a 2.3 cubic foot device it's not that bad but not that good either. It's not big enough to hold a case of beer. 41 degrees is also not that cold. You need to check out some of our better fridge threads.

The ambient temperature (air / water), the amount of insulation, the size of the box, and the desired temperature tell you the mathematics of the problem.
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You just can beat an Engel for a portable fridge and or freezer. They work good for not a lot of money. They last for years and they have a good selection for your needs with good customer support. About Engel
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... use 50 watts and in a 24 hour period would run approximately 6 hours in 30C (around 90f). This works out to be 3 amps a day...
I do not think you did your math right. A=W/V -> A=50/12=4.167, which means fridge draws 4.167A when running. Multiply by 6 hours-> 6x4.167 = 25, which means you should get 25A/day.

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It's not big enough to hold a case of beer.
Thats more than enough reason to reject it alone
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Yes, I meant can't or ''cannot''. I should have re-read my post.
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If you are talking about advertised claims, it's a pretty safe bet that NOTHING is as good as they claim!

I know a couple of people with Waeco's, I have an old Engel, and we are all satisfied with them.
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Practical sailor did a review of both in their May issue.

Engel MT-35F

Bottom Line: A top performer with an efficient compressor and low price. We rated it the Practical Sailor Budget Buy.

Waeco Coolmatic CF-40


Bottom Line: In our test, the Waeco’s Danfoss compressor was not as power-efficient as the best units tested. But we like the unit’s completely plastic exterior and its price.

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The compressor system used in the Engel and Norcold fridge/freezers proved to be far more efficient than the Danfoss reciprocating compressor used in the Waeco. In our tests, the Waeco’s amp draw was nearly 50 percent higher than a comparably sized Norcold unit. When coupled with the top-shelf construction and materials of the Engel and Norcold units, we’d opt for one of these every time.
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A belated thanks for posting the conclusion of the review of the Waeco and Engle frigs/freezer. It looks like Engle is the way to go; a friend has told me this several times; I guess I was in denial (higher price) but as usual you get what you pay for.
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Question, I like Engel for everthing said, but the other refrigerators (side opening models) all seem to have the compressor built in, which drastically limits the room in the refrig. Waeco has a model with a compressor with a 5 ft lead line external to the unit. Does Engel or Norcold have anything like this?
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I suggest more research...

If you have not made a decision, you should visit KollmannMarine Boat Refrigeration Specialist for some expert opinions without a sales bias. The key to efficient refrigeration is insulation, insulation, insulation...
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Question, I like Engel for everthing said, but the other refrigerators (side opening models) all seem to have the compressor built in, which drastically limits the room in the refrig. Waeco has a model with a compressor with a 5 ft lead line external to the unit. Does Engel or Norcold have anything like this?
Vitrifrigo does. Freezers too, in either top or front opening.

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Thank you for the link! Do you know anything about the relative quality of Vitrifrigo vs the other brands (Waeco, Engle...)?


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Vitrifrigo does. Freezers too, in either top or front opening.

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