Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 19-03-2013, 13:09   #121
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,823
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

I used big shears...OUTSIDE and UPWIND.
Do as much of your project outside as you can.

We started in our garage and afterward had to dust every single square inch of everything in there.

Steve
__________________

__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-03-2013, 13:25   #122
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,923
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Thanks for that Steve, I'll take your advice. Ordinary spray adhesive work OK? Any other little tricks? I'm starting tomorrow. Cheers, Robert
__________________

__________________
robert sailor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19-03-2013, 13:48   #123
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,013
Images: 5
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico View Post
I used big shears...OUTSIDE and UPWIND.
Do as much of your project outside as you can.

We started in our garage and afterward had to dust every single square inch of everything in there.

Steve
My experience exactly. I'm sure we'll find out the health hazards 10 years from now.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-03-2013, 16:49   #124
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,823
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

I used 3m 77 spray adhesive all over between the layers and 3" wide aluminum tape on the seams.

Steve
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-03-2013, 17:09   #125
Do… or do not
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 9,198
Anything other than the insulation material provides paths for conducting heat. The better the other material conducts heat, the more heat will move around.
__________________
s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-03-2013, 21:35   #126
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,823
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

True, but I figured the spray glue was perpendicular to the direction of heat transfer.
I also folded back or cut off any aluminum foil at seams to prevent heat path leakage.

At any rate, I'm totally "off grid" as far as the boat's systems are concerned.
Hot water is made by flipping on the inverter.
Who needs an engine except to get somewhere when there's NO wind?

Steve
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-03-2013, 00:33   #127
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,013
Images: 5
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

I have learned with Insulation and how to's on the forum, you can end up splitting atoms pretty quick. You do the best you can with the materials on hand with the money you have and live with it. I have a total of $500 into the box I molded and the insulation. I bought a new old stock AB cold machine for $500 (condenser and evaporator). So $1000 for cold drinks and preserve food a few weeks. Works for me.
If one has the means of a bottomless wallet, by all means split atoms and make your unit 5% more efficient over your neighbors. Me...I'll invest the extra money in other equipment I need.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-07-2013, 09:42   #128
Registered User
 
morays's Avatar

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Boat: caliber 40
Posts: 20
Re: Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico View Post
Photos of the box liner.
We designed it to use maximum hull space which still isn't much.
Notice the high tech spacers under the pop cans while I measure for shelf brackets!

Next comes insulation.
Senormechanico,

I have a project on my neverending project list which is to improve the reefer efficiency. It should have a knock on effect of stopping the mildew that forms on the seat back cushions that rest on the bulkhead that has the reefer on the other side of it. I suspect that I will line the existing 11cuft reefer so that the project will not involve removing the countertop. This will still allow me to have a large reefer with minimal disruption.
Can you please tell me what it is thats on the outside of your reefer box that holds the frp together, some sort of tape?
Can you also tell me what you used to seal the internal edges? 5200 or bathroom caulk? I have a sloping side on the inside of my reefer and wondered how flexible the FRP is. Could I bent it to that same shape if I wanted to maintain as much of the original size as possible?

Moray
s/v Sol Purpose
__________________
morays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 05:10   #129
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,923
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Got mine all built and I'm extremely pleased with the end result. Its a 6 cu ft. reefer(no freezer) and it sits at the thermostat setting that is just a 1/16" from off. It holds a box temp that is about 35 degrees and runs a minute every 10-12 minutes depending on outside temps. First time in all the years cruising where my solar panels look after everything, never need to start the engine. Aerogel is a very cool product
__________________
robert sailor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 05:22   #130
Registered User
 
Cotemar's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Boat: FP, Helia 44 Evo
Posts: 5,717
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Quote:
Originally Posted by robert sailor View Post
Got mine all built and I'm extremely pleased with the end result. Its a 6 cu ft. reefer(no freezer) and it sits at the thermostat setting that is just a 1/16" from off. It holds a box temp that is about 35 degrees and runs a minute every 10-12 minutes depending on outside temps. First time in all the years cruising where my solar panels look after everything, never need to start the engine. Aerogel is a very cool product
Any pictures?
__________________
Cotemar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 23:02   #131
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,923
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

I'm currently cruising in the Med and I can take a couple of the finish product if thats what you want?? R
__________________
robert sailor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 21:01   #132
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 3
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Hi, we're just in the final stages of our fridge/freezer rebuild using Cryogel Z. We purchased an entire roll of the Cryogel Z but have only used half the roll so plan to sell the remaining 20 metre x 14.5 metre. Does anyone have any suggestions on where best to advertise this type of thing? Thanks in advance for your advice.
__________________
Mischief2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-09-2013, 05:13   #133
Moderator Emeritus
 
GordMay's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 31,573
Images: 240
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Mischief.
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-09-2013, 08:33   #134
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 13
Re: Aerogel - Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mischief2 View Post
Hi, we're just in the final stages of our fridge/freezer rebuild using Cryogel Z. We purchased an entire roll of the Cryogel Z but have only used half the roll so plan to sell the remaining 20 metre x 14.5 metre. Does anyone have any suggestions on where best to advertise this type of thing? Thanks in advance for your advice.
I had a smaller amount left over and sold it easily on Ebay (in USA).
__________________
YachtManuals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-09-2013, 10:41   #135
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,823
Re: Spaceloft Insulation for Fridge / Freezer

Quote:
Originally Posted by morays View Post
Senormechanico,

I have a project on my neverending project list which is to improve the reefer efficiency. It should have a knock on effect of stopping the mildew that forms on the seat back cushions that rest on the bulkhead that has the reefer on the other side of it. I suspect that I will line the existing 11cuft reefer so that the project will not involve removing the countertop. This will still allow me to have a large reefer with minimal disruption.
Can you please tell me what it is thats on the outside of your reefer box that holds the frp together, some sort of tape?
Can you also tell me what you used to seal the internal edges? 5200 or bathroom caulk? I have a sloping side on the inside of my reefer and wondered how flexible the FRP is. Could I bent it to that same shape if I wanted to maintain as much of the original size as possible?

Moray
s/v Sol Purpose
I just now saw your post that you wrote when I was on a 5 week vacation on the boat.

I used fiberglass sticky tape on the edges, then going around the box overlapping the seams. After completely wrapping the box that way, I sealed the seams on the inside using 3M 4200.
Everything is working fine.
__________________

__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Aerogel, freezer, insulation, refrigerator

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Insulation Between Fridge and Freezer mikereed100 Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 6 30-08-2010 16:53
Multipanel for Freezer Insulation ozmike Construction, Maintenance & Refit 4 20-07-2010 07:18
Boosting Fridge Insulation Sweet As Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 2 22-06-2010 03:03
Freezer Insulation ? gbanker Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 8 20-05-2010 20:42
Improving Insulation on Existing Fridge / Freezer sailorgal Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 1 17-04-2010 07:21



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 17:59.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.