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Old 18-10-2015, 16:37   #46
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Re: Prop Shaft Line Cutters: Yes or No?

I have a shark......there info is online and you can call them, they do answer a phone....
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Photos of my spur install. These things do the job on nets, rope and even cable. They have saved our butts several times that we know for sure and who knows how many times we don't know about.
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One thing worth considering in the spirit of cruising many cultures and living in the Florida Keys where I know many commercial fisherman. There is a significant investment in each trap and it's relative income over time. Once you drag/cut the trap float it is lost to the owner. I recognize the convenience it represents for me but .....
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..best investment you can install.. My (design and build for a friend) save me from nets, fishing lines and crabs pots more time I can remember... highly recommended...
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After a race and motoring back to port I heard a loud BANG_BANG_BANG from under the boat. I thought I'd caught a lobster pot, but this was a much louder noise than I had ever heard. On diving I found it was our spin sheet that someone had let slip over the side. It had wrapped so tightly that it actually pulled the shaft aft and my engine was standing up on it's now vertical motor mounts. As I unwound the line the shaft snaps back into position and the engine slams back down. End result: 1 broken motor mount, one damaged one, engine out of alignment and lots of vibration. Could have been a lot worse. Still the boat needed to be pulled for inspection. We limped in to the marina. $2200 for this error. The line cutters are a bargain compared to that. I'm putting one on over the winter.
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One thing worth considering in the spirit of cruising many cultures and living in the Florida Keys where I know many commercial fisherman. There is a significant investment in each trap and it's relative income over time. Once you drag/cut the trap float it is lost to the owner. I recognize the convenience it represents for me but .....
I don't think it makes any difference to the owner of the trap whether you destroy it by getting it wrapped in your prop and shaft, or by cutting it cleanly. He's lost it either way, but if you have a cutter, you've at least saved your prop and possibly your boat.
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One thing worth considering in the spirit of cruising many cultures and living in the Florida Keys where I know many commercial fisherman. There is a significant investment in each trap and it's relative income over time. Once you drag/cut the trap float it is lost to the owner. I recognize the convenience it represents for me but .....

Bob I agree, up to a point. I don't think any of deliberately run over crab pots. However, the courtesy goes both ways. If I accidentally run over a pot in the middle of the channel, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Similarly if those props are moored with steel cable, I consider that an active act of vandalism that's going to cost some boater big time.


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One thing worth considering in the spirit of cruising many cultures and living in the Florida Keys where I know many commercial fisherman. There is a significant investment in each trap and it's relative income over time. Once you drag/cut the trap float it is lost to the owner. I recognize the convenience it represents for me but .....
I agree it is their livelihood and one that seems to start about 4AM. I have picked one up and sailed it out of the waterway. Ate tails that night. The warp was in tact and the numbered float, so I hope he found it. The trap is cheap it was the lead weight that cost. One thing that had not been mentioned, is a cut free trap is a self perpetuating thing. Catching the catch becomes bait.
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Re: Prop Shaft Line Cutters: Yes or No?

I once ran a few stone crab traps. Some of them lost their buoys but I was able to find most of them anyway. If you get a pot warp wrapped around your prop, the fisherman is going to lose the buoy anyway when you dive over to cut yourself lose. Better to just have your shaft cutters cut the line and leave the trap exactly where it was.

By the way, they don't use lead to weight the traps, they use concrete.

Ghost fishing is an issue but whether your Spurs cut the line or you cut it with your wife's kitchen knife that's still going to happen. The only solution to that is to use escape panels that deteriorate very quickly.
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I once ran a few stone crab traps. Some of them lost their buoys but I was able to find most of them anyway. If you get a pot warp wrapped around your prop, the fisherman is going to lose the buoy anyway when you dive over to cut yourself lose. Better to just have your shaft cutters cut the line and leave the trap exactly where it was.

By the way, they don't use lead to weight the traps, they use concrete.

Ghost fishing is an issue but whether your Spurs cut the line or you cut it with your wife's kitchen knife that's still going to happen. The only solution to that is to use escape panels that deteriorate very quickly.
The one we hauled in the Keys was not concrete it was lead. The Eco folks would probably get upset. I'm not pro or con. In the Keys it appears they set in or close to the channel as marked but a dawn to dusk job and I'm sure they are hoping not for a lose. The kitchen knife is a hoot. The serrated ones are the best. The carving ones, turkey today rope tomorrow.
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I can't seem to find where to buy the Gator?

From the video posted earlier I am leaning towards the scissor type, however my boat is FRP and not sure about attaching the stationary part ad this must impose a considerable shock load when encountering a steel cable and stopping the prop dead?
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