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28-08-2016, 09:15
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
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Originally Posted by artisanmach
is the shaft properly aligned? it maybe rubbing on gland...
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I sure hope the shaft is aligned. I spent a few hours working on it. Boat has a v-drive and six motor mounts so it was a bit of a pain. It must be pretty close because I don't get any vibration or shaft wobble when I run it.
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28-08-2016, 10:02
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Location: Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
Shaft wobble isn't much of a test. It can only wobble if it's bent or it's bolted onto the flange crooked. The shaft will run true to the flange once they are bolted together.
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28-08-2016, 10:03
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Anacortes, WA
Boat: Gulfstar 37 Sloop
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
my shaft is strait and aligned with no movement in shaft, my stuffing box hose was so short and old it was applying a side load that made it to hot to touch. I replaced the hose and packing and I can hold my hand on it.
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28-08-2016, 18:09
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Senior Cruiser
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Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
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Originally Posted by Guy
Shaft wobble isn't much of a test. It can only wobble if it's bent or it's bolted onto the flange crooked. The shaft will run true to the flange once they are bolted together.
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Now I think about it I guess shaft wobble isn't much of a test. What about no vibration?
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28-08-2016, 18:11
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
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Originally Posted by artisanmach
my shaft is strait and aligned with no movement in shaft, my stuffing box hose was so short and old it was applying a side load that made it to hot to touch. I replaced the hose and packing and I can hold my hand on it.
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How short? I do have a new hose, Buck Algonquin 6 ply stuffing box hose about 15-16" long as I recall. Didn't notice any significant curvature to the hose before installation so assume it's not giving a side load. That's still an interesting idea to keep in mind.
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28-08-2016, 18:17
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor
Skip...I went through that whole mess when I launched with the new Teflon packing. I couldn't.t put my hand on the bronze. After realigning, it didn't seem much better. After a few hundred miles, it was cooler. I'm going back in the water in a few months and may change back to the flax style. My worry was shaft friction damage.
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I'm also worried about friction damage. There's already a little grooving on the shaft and don't want it to get worse.
I will definitely change packing due to potential galvanic reaction between the graphite in the Gore GFO and my antique bronze shaft. The flax packing that I found at Defender seems to be flax with teflon. Can you still get old style flax with wax or whatever they used to use?
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28-08-2016, 18:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
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Originally Posted by skipmac
est. What about no vibration?
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If the shaft is straight and the prop is in balance it would take a significant contact in a worn cutlass to cause a vibration. Then it would be a 1/2 frequency (?.) Weird, you would notice.
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28-08-2016, 18:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
Boat: Pearson 365 Sloop and 9' Fatty Knees.
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
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Originally Posted by skipmac
I'm also worried about friction damage. There's already a little grooving on the shaft and don't want it to get worse.
I will definitely change packing due to potential galvanic reaction between the graphite in the Gore GFO and my antique bronze shaft. The flax packing that I found at Defender seems to be flax with teflon. Can you still get old style flax with wax or whatever they used to use?
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Two of many online.
Western Pacific Flax Shaft Packing Retail 1/4 WPT-10003
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...ct.do?pid=3862
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29-08-2016, 04:08
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
You can obtain all types of packing including traditional. Preference at the yard I run is the white Teflon, which has good life but isn't so harsh on shafts as GFO.
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29-08-2016, 07:10
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Anacortes, WA
Boat: Gulfstar 37 Sloop
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Re: Overheating stuffing box
maybe 4 inches, it looks like it had been cut several times in the past from the grooves I can see that are worn on the shaft. I believe the hose was just that. the new one has a much thicker wall an is about 10" long. I did purchase a Norscot shaft seal but can't install it until next haul out so I can replace the shaft. there are too many grooves.
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