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S/V Illusion · 19-02-2008, 09:41

20,000 hull cleanings would require someone to do 2 each and every day, all year long, every single day for 30 years straight!

Your computer must be under water

fstbttms · 19-02-2008, 09:51

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20,000 hull cleanings would require someone to do 2 each and every day, all year long, every single day for 30 years straight!

Ummm... I couldn't make a living if I only did 2 boats a day. Try 8 or 10.

S/V Illusion · 19-02-2008, 10:00

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Ummm... I couldn't make a living if I only did 2 boats a day. Try 8 or 10.

= 1 hr/boat to thoroughly clean an entire hull?
It takes our guys that long to do a hull hanging in the travel lift.

fstbttms · 19-02-2008, 10:02

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= 1 hr/boat to thoroughly clean an entire hull?
It takes our guys that long to do a hull hanging in the travel lift.

What does that have to do with the time needed to do an in-water hull cleaning?

S/V Illusion · 19-02-2008, 10:33

Was simply trying to understand how a hull can be cleaned faster underwater than one hanging in the slings. Not trying to impugn your veracity - Maybe I should just have a diver do it henceforth.

fstbttms · 19-02-2008, 10:39

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Was simply trying to understand how a hull can be cleaned faster underwater than one hanging in the slings. Not trying to impugn your veracity - Maybe I should just have a diver do it henceforth.

You haul out for a bottom cleaning?

I don't what that costs you out there, but I bet a diver is faster, cheaper and more convenient. I know it is here.

ssullivan · 19-02-2008, 10:39

S/V Illusion - the type of bottom job fstbttms does is a preventative monthly or so scrub. I think you are confusing it with an annual haul out and pressure wash/scrape.

If you contract with fstbttms (or other in water hull cleaners), your hull will be clean when she comes out for annual haul out.

In New England, many of us don't bother with preventative scrubs in water, because we haul out for the winter. Maybe that's where the miscommunication comes in.

fstbttms come by every so often to keep your vessel in tip top shape for speed. It's not the annual "let's take a blowtorch to this" type of bottom job we do in New England each fall.

Latitude9.5 · 19-02-2008, 10:40

A friend cleans mine, he's retired and just does it for beer money and women. Anyhow, he cleans my 46 foot boat in under an hour and he does a good job as I had him clean it once the day before I hauled it and I've seen how clean it was. (had a bit of a hike so i wanted a clean bottom). he cleans the thru hulls too

over the last week or so the sheepshead have been cleaning it, they take way longer then an hour.

**David M** · 19-02-2008, 10:45

Divers are great, not just for the cleaning but for inspection. It cant hurt to have one inspect the anodes etc and to check for junk in the prop(s). I haul once a year religiously because it is an aluminum hull plus the boat is used frequently and still I have it dived on between haulouts.

Racers have it done on an even more frequent basis.

fstbttms · 19-02-2008, 10:48

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In New England, many of us don't bother with preventative scrubs in water, because we haul out for the winter. Maybe that's where the miscommunication comes in.

D'oh!

I bet you're right.

S/V Illusion · 19-02-2008, 11:05

It may be winter in New England but that doesn't necessitate winter hauling. We and lot of other folks haul every couple of years or more to do the bottoms, maintain seacocks, props, zincs, etc but for marinas equipped to preclude ice, winter storage in the water is often safer, cheaper and obviously facilitates spring commissioning not having to wait to get back in.
Having said that, I still don't understand how an in-water cleaning can be as fast as one done in the slings with a pressure washer. Not talking about layers of barnacles but a simple cleaning lots of us to in prep for race weeks.

**FrankZ** · 19-02-2008, 11:11

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You haul out for a bottom cleaning?

I don't what that costs you out there, but I bet a diver is faster, cheaper and more convenient. I know it is here.

This past season I hauled once to have the bottom cleaned. Took about an hour from slip to slip (including the test ride up the creek and back) and was $100 for the haul and cleaning. When I arranged it I thought I had to clean it and they were just lifting and waiting, but he did the pressure wash and scraping and all that.

Don't know what a diver costs in these parts.

fstbttms · 19-02-2008, 11:12

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Having said that, I still don't understand how an in-water cleaning can be as fast as one done in the slings with a pressure washer. Not talking about layers of barnacles but a simple cleaning lots of us to in prep for race weeks.

I figure about a minute per foot, LOA. A 30-footer is going to take about half an hour. Throw some zincs on and it might be five or ten minutes more. Powerboats take a little longer but that's why we charge more. A racer with a cherry bottom that is being cleaned frequently will take substantially less.

And dat's da name of dat tune!

**FrankZ** · 19-02-2008, 11:14

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I figure about a minute per foot, LOA. A 30-footer is going to take about half an hour. Throw some zincs on and it might be five or ten minutes more. ower boats take a little longer but that's why we charge more. A racer with a cherry bottom that is being cleaned frequently will take substantially less.

And dat's da name of dat tune!

How long does it take you to set up and tear down for the actual work?