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Old 14-09-2008, 16:48   #16
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Here in Washington (not D.C.) anything over 15 hp requires a boaters card. And the time lapse to get one is governed by age. Those over 60 are grandfathered in, pun intended and are not required to apply.

Although, I did just for fun. I even got to help with some boating experiences.

If one has a vessel for hire, then is does require a USCG approved training and license starting with a six pack, 100 ton and on up. Which also requires proven time at sea.................._/)
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Old 14-09-2008, 17:11   #17
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Your part of Europe may require bits of paper. Not mine
If you want to pass the Netherlands or france you'll need some kind of certifications that are approved by those states. So it's pretty hard not to have any diplomas if you live up north and want to sail south.

for me this seems not to be a problem though. Somebody told me that you can't register a US boat if you're not a US citizen.
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Old 14-09-2008, 18:23   #18
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Somebody told me that you can't register a US boat if you're not a US citizen.
That is document, not register.
Any resident of the US (legal or not ) can register with a state.
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Oregon requires a license; it's actually a "boaters safety card" and you best have it if you're boarded by the federalies. . . .
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That is document, not register.
Any resident of the US (legal or not ) can register with a state.
hmm, I'm not quite with you. If we buy a american vesssel. do we need to register it somewhere else or not?
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^ If you have a residence in the US you can register the vessel in that state you reside.

If you reside outside the US then you will have to register/title it there or whoever will except a registration. BTW In Washington state a PO box is not a valid residence and will not be excepted. Boats are just like motor homes in the US.
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If I ever get my boat to Europe will I get impounded for not having a license?
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If you are not a citizen then you need to register the boat some place. Your home country makes some sense nearly all the time. As a non resident you can't stay here forever without a green card so your visa runs out and then you no longer are resident of a state and you can't have an address (mostly). You would need a proper mailing address to register the boat in a state. Some states require taxes and they don't care if you are resident. If you register a boat in a state that is where it has to "normally" be kept.

So you register in Delaware with no taxes but if you keep the boat in Maryland 6 months or more the state of Maryland will want taxes. In that case they don't care who you are or where you live or where the boat is registered. Taxes are mostly about where the boat is and nothing more. Registration is not connected to taxes. The calendar can make you owe taxes based on location of the boat.

For a non US resident it's a lot more complicated because there is you, the boat, where you are, and where the boat is. They all can have nothing to do with each other and have different issues as far as legal status, taxes owed, and meeting requirements. The details in the end do matter. Using the ineptitude of local officials to skip out on taxes may work but won't be legal. They are getting smarter.

If you plan on taking a boat back to your own country you would be best off to register it with your country and take care of that paper work upon purchase, then you know you can come home with your boat. Your visa limits will avoid most all tax issues with the US or state governments, but you need to check state buy state.

The purpose of registration is more than being legal. It is a way to prove to any official that wants to know that you indeed own the boat. There is a general presumption of guilt if you can't prove you own the boat legally. They think you stole it! Not a very good situation. While it might not come up you really don't want that potential trouble.
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