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Old 25-02-2013, 08:41   #1
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Non US for USCG License

Hello everybody,

Can a non-us do a USCG Captains license? Where is the best place to do this?
If you are RYA Certified can you do a cross over course?

I am currently in the Caribbean any licensed schools there?

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Hello everybody,

Can a non-us do a USCG Captains license? Where is the best place to do this?
If you are RYA Certified can you do a cross over course?

I am currently in the Caribbean any licensed schools there?

Thanks for your help!
The OUPV ( 6 pack) can be done by non-citizens, but I think you need to be a resident , ie have a Social Security number.

ALl higher certs need citizenship.

No there is no cross over courses from "leisure" certs.

Merchant Marine tickets are different to leisure certs, in a Merchant Marine cert, the explicit assumption is you are a full time mariner and hence all have substantial sea time requirements, in some cases significant sea time. The exams then are then theory based.

Merchant Marine tickets are IMO controlled and cross compatible ( in the main), so UK Merchant Marine tickets would have cross recognition, except for US Inland waters. ( again there are a few wrinkles)


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Re: non US for USCG License

The thorn in the side for OUPV is that all levels of licensing, including OUPV require a TWIC (Transportation Worker Identification Credential). These are available to non-citizens, how easily will depend on your status. Canadians/Mexicans easiest, then it becomes much more difficult.

http://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fil..._documents.pdf

all of the rules are here:

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The OUPV ( 6 pack) can be done by non-citizens, but I think you need to be a resident , ie have a Social Security number.

ALl higher certs need citizenship.

No there is no cross over courses from "leisure" certs.

Merchant Marine tickets are different to leisure certs, in a Merchant Marine cert, the explicit assumption is you are a full time mariner and hence all have substantial sea time requirements, in some cases significant sea time. The exams then are then theory based.

Merchant Marine tickets are IMO controlled and cross compatible ( in the main), so UK Merchant Marine tickets would have cross recognition, except for US Inland waters. ( again there are a few wrinkles)


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Ok great info, what if i want to go to the maritime academy for 4 years, do you know the proces of gettin enrolled as a dutch citizen? I like to to study in ft. Lauderdale, not sure how to get accepted.
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Ok great info, what if i want to go to the maritime academy for 4 years, do you know the proces of gettin enrolled as a dutch citizen? I like to to study in ft. Lauderdale, not sure how to get accepted.

I know to enrol in the USMNA you have to be a US citizen.
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can I ask what you are trying to do?

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can I ask what you are trying to do?

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Im trying to become a maritime officer and looking for a easy but good way to get the papers and would love to live and work in the us. I am a dutch citizen
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Im trying to become a maritime officer and looking for a easy but good way to get the papers and would love to live and work in the us. I am a dutch citizen
Unfortunately this isn't a way in.
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I can only assume you are thinking of getting. US certification in the hope of finding work.
There is no other reason to get it!
Problem there is that you can only work on a US registered vessel if you are a US national.
The RYA Yachtmaster Cert is however acceptable in most countries and is in essence the defining certification to hold.
Perhaps it is only the USA and France that require their own certification.
There are I believe ASA schools in the Caribbean...in St Maarten and BVI
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You can always marry a US citizen, and gain your green card and proceed from there.
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The RYA Yachtmaster Cert is however acceptable in most countries and is in essence the defining certification to hold.
not for merchant vessels, it no use for them.

IN superyachts, running under UK MCA rules, its useful as a deckhand entry qualification, but then this industry is not part of the merchant marine world.

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Thanks for the help guys! maybe I will join our green card lottery and see what happens
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Re: non US for USCG License

Call or email the maritime academy's that interest you and ask. When I went to Cal Maritime there were a few people from foreign countries who were able to get a four year degree but were not allowed to sit for the exam because to be a US merchant marine officer (higher level licenses) you also have to be a US citizen. After graduation they would go back to their home country and sit for their home countries exam. This was a long time ago though.
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This is a Cruisers forum and as such most users of this forum are owners or aspiring owners of 'small' yachts.
If you want to discuss merchant marine qualifications I am sure there is a forum for that somewhere?
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Re: non US for USCG License

It's all still applicable to anyone hired to skipper a boat with passengers in the US. No need to shut down the discussion, in my opinion. We've been WAY further off track in other areas.
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