Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-08-2014, 17:33   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Colorado
Boat: Bruce Roberts Steel Offshore 44
Posts: 46
License Required?

I happen to own a big catamaran that I would like to use in the US to give meet potential clients for my investment management business. There would be no charge or obligation to come on board, but there would be a short business presentation before in a marina meeting room.

And yes, I am talking more than 6 guests. Probably about 20 at a time. Again, none are paying, or under any obligation to do business.

Does this require a license for the captain, and an inspection of the vessel? Obviously the boat meets all the standard safety requirements, such as PFD, fire extinguishers, etc.

Thanks.

Mike
__________________

__________________
mkjhartmann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 17:43   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Diego
Boat: Pearson 39-2 "Sea Story"
Posts: 1,109
Re: License required?

Would you be writing off boat expenses for tax purposes?
__________________

__________________
Greenhand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 17:45   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Colorado
Boat: Bruce Roberts Steel Offshore 44
Posts: 46
Re: License required?

If that is the deciding factor, probably not.

Mike
__________________
mkjhartmann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 17:47   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Colorado
Boat: Bruce Roberts Steel Offshore 44
Posts: 46
Re: License required?

I would probably write off the meal and drinks at the marina, but actually going out for the sunset sail, no I would not deduct the boat expenses.
__________________
mkjhartmann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 22:21   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: West Coast
Posts: 51
Re: License required?

Consider taking 20 potential clients out on a boat as an added perk at no cost to them after an investment presentation for which you've deducted your marina and food/drink expenses. Sounds like commercial use.

Consider what happens when one or more of those 20 potential clients becomes ill, injured or falls off the boat or there's a collision while they're on the boat. Are you self insured? Would you rather have had a licensed captain captain at the helm and had insurance for commercial use?

Things to think about.
__________________
cattar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 23:59   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New Mexico, USA
Boat: International Etchells USA 125 Black Magic, Santana 20 475 Ghost, Hobie 33 3100 Bruja, dinghies,
Posts: 1,118
Re: License required?

Picking up on what was just mentioned, how does your insurance treat this?

One trick would be to get real legal advice from a real lawyer who actually understands the Coast Guard idea of what carriage for hire is or isn't.
__________________
Pat, from the Desert Sea http://desertsea.blogspot.com
rgscpat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2014, 01:02   #7
Senior Cruiser
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Now in Blaine, WA
Boat: Modified Choate 40
Posts: 10,702
Images: 122
Re: License required?

20 people.

Sounds scary to me. You would have to have a crew for crowd control and handling lines.
__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

Unprepared boaters, end up as floatsum!.......
delmarrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2014, 01:06   #8
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,939
Images: 1
Re: License required?

JUst how big is this catamaran? 20 people for a sunset cruise? this is a 60-70-80 footer?
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2014, 08:46   #9
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,953
Images: 6
Re: License Required?

If none of the passengers are paying anything, nor obligated to do business with you in consideration of the trip, then the Coast Guard will not require you to have any license. That's the short answer to your original question. The other issues, however (insurance, liability, etc.), are still serious considerations that need to be addressed. And, as rgscpat said, you really should get real legal advice before doing something like this.

Good luck.
__________________

__________________
denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
license

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
No Boat License Required, Trip to Other Countrys and Visa Question Proxor General Sailing Forum 4 10-08-2013 16:20
Required Radio License for EU waters chrismin Our Community 9 09-01-2013 11:01
Skipper license? whitecaps General Sailing Forum 18 19-06-2012 03:14
Required License(s) for Operating a Crewed Charter? cbcat Training, Licensing & Certification 11 09-03-2010 08:25
A license should be required... GreatKetch Construction, Maintenance & Refit 20 27-11-2007 05:31



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:00.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.