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Old 30-10-2012, 07:56   #61
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Re: Steve Jobs new boat, so big they aren't sure how big it actually is

winning the "pretty boat" contest it ain't in my opinion. Ain't even close. Will everyone stop and look at it when it comes into port? absolutely. Is that the effect Jobs was after? Probably.

Would I want it? Damn right. then I could sell it and buy something I really want like an 80 foot swan. Will they give it to me? doubt it. Don't lose sleep over it either.

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Re: Steve Jobs new boat, so big they aren't sure how big it actually is

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Steve Jobs was an innovator whose original ideas have had a largely positive affect on billions of people.

I think he probably applied the same criteria to yacht design.
I was thinking about him in a personal way.

When he began this project he was a man with huge financial success, a husband and a father. And he was dying of cancer. He must have been aware that there was every likelihood he would never see its launch.

Hence: hope floats

or it did for him at that time....
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Just one more thing

Steve Jobs wanted to show his best friend Larry Ellison what a good designer and visionary he was. Larry Ellison of course is a more practical sailor and holds some of the top world sailing records.
Larry Ellison had Steve Jobs and his family on board of his 453 foot Rising Sun yacht many times. Steve Jobs seemed to think he could do a better job designing a yacht.

Note: Larry Ellisons boat has some of the same lines as Steve Jobs boat, most notably the tall vertical windows
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Re: Steve Jobs new boat, so big they aren't sure how big it actually is

Taste is certainly a personal thing, but seeing those two boats together, I much prefer Venus over Rising Sun. And over almost all other Euro-styled megayachts I see out here that look like 4 or 5 designers with different intentions all took control of parts of it and then used a committee to bolt the designs together at the end.

Personally, I appreciate those who try something new like Venus or the yacht "A".

As for showing off the computers behind glass, I think Steve Jobs already did that with the Apple Store concept. I doubt he felt the need to show off iMacs on his boat. Instead, I suspect that this build is just leaving the dry dock with its interior and systems still to be completed in the water (with wireless iPad control apps, no doubt).

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Re: Steve Jobs new boat, so big they aren't sure how big it actually is

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Not really. Philip Starck is a number one exterior designer.
Starting a design is making a bunch of propositions according to the measurements of the principal.

After a final design has been chosen, it is the construction yard filling it in, after that those particulars are established, the interior designer can start doing his job.

Exterior design (design of hull & superstructure) and construction design sometimes clash. It is a complicated business and mostly the yard gives the owner a speed proven hull upon the exterior designer can start to draw a final shape. Weights play a prticular important role.
I am sure Mr Jobs handed down the design perameters. That is usually what happens when a cashed up customer visits an architect.
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Poor project management

I think there was too much owners input into this
I have seen it often when the people that are the most successful ,type A personalities micro-manage every little detail
The bridge/wheelhouse, is to me as described "minimalist"
It looks like a college cafeteria , or perhaps a budget retail computer store
I have run a few yachts and the standard is built-in Nauticomp ,or equivalent marine monitors
They cost 3x as much ($6,000+)as those home monitors ,but your wheelhouse installation doesn't look like a best-buy technician did the work

And look at those seats...sure the chrome looks nice, but I would rather have the comfortable Stidd seats which are common these days

If this thing ever changes hands I would bet that changes will be made

First on my list is computers with the more common windows o/s
Which is why Steve died a billionaire and you will not.
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Which is why Steve died a billionaire and you will not.
People live wealthy and die wealthy from a complex set of circumstances blended liberty with luck.

The very fact anyone would build such a tub shows clearly, every major decision he made in his life, was not a good one.

The proof will be when it comes time to sell this thing. Newer second hand mega yachts hold their value, sometimes selling higher the second time. Watch this homely thing sell for as much the second time? Yeah, right.
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Which is why Steve died a billionaire and you will not.
Ha Ha, yes I agree with you there
It's been over 13 years since I was in the rat race of worrying about collecting more toys , and working 9 to 5 from paycheck to paycheck
When your dead your dead , quality of life is more important for me these days
In my travels I have noticed that the non conventional thinkers will either be highly successful (rare), or will end up in line at the soup kitchen sleeping in a box
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Re: Steve Jobs New Boat, so Big They Aren't Sure How Big it Actually Is

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People live wealthy and die wealthy from a complex set of circumstances blended liberty with luck.

The very fact anyone would build such a tub shows clearly, every major decision he made in his life, was not a good one.

The proof will be when it comes time to sell this thing. Newer second hand mega yachts hold their value, sometimes selling higher the second time. Watch this homely thing sell for as much the second time? Yeah, right.

Second hand mega yachts hold their value? That is a hilarious statement. Most mega yachts lose about 50% of their value the minute they come out the factory doors.
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Taste is certainly a personal thing, but seeing those two boats together, I much prefer Venus over Rising Sun. And over almost all other Euro-styled megayachts I see out here that look like 4 or 5 designers with different intentions all took control of parts of it and then used a committee to bolt the designs together at the end.

Personally, I appreciate those who try something new like Venus or the yacht "A".

As for showing off the computers behind glass, I think Steve Jobs already did that with the Apple Store concept. I doubt he felt the need to show off iMacs on his boat. Instead, I suspect that this build is just leaving the dry dock with its interior and systems still to be completed in the water (with wireless iPad control apps, no doubt).

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Couldn't agree more. At least this boat is different, not another eurostyled monstrosity. Compared to most modern mega yachts this is a thing of beauty. Lets just compare it to some other examples in the same class. Compared to the profusion of wierd shaped windows on most boats, I think it looks long, lean, and clean. I also think it would look totally different in the flesh, and is probably an example of a yacht that doesn't photograph well. However, I'm a sucker for any boat with a plumb stem, especially if there's a bit of reverse rake as there is here...
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Couldn't agree more. At least this boat is different, not another eurostyled monstrosity. Compared to most modern mega yachts this is a thing of beauty. Lets just compare it to some other examples in the same class. Compared to the profusion of wierd shaped windows on most boats, I think it looks long, lean, and clean. I also think it would look totally different in the flesh, and is probably an example of a yacht that doesn't photograph well. However, I'm a sucker for any boat with a plumb stem, especially if there's a bit of reverse rake as there is here...
Here's one for a good price. 45' Bayliner Boat 500 hours!!!
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I rather suspect that was the thinking. Sometimes nothing is better.

The joys of dealing with the nouveau riche .


Pity he couldn't actually take it with him...........
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There's a 70' "Euro Monstrosity" sitting next to me here in Thunderbolt. The delivery crew hate it. Came in day before yesterday after being out in 8' seas, they weren't sure if it was going to make it. They say it flexed and bent like it was a toy, afraid the on-the-hull picture windows were going to pop out. They swear it has a "Made by Mattel" stamp on it some place.

Sure I wish I could afford something like that, then I'd buy that beautiful double cabin 47' ketch I saw the other day.
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Jobs created the I-Pod, I-Mac, I-Phone, I-Pad --

and now his new yacht, the I-Sore.

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