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Old 07-02-2015, 11:51   #1
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refueling at sea ????

1967 Chris Craft Cavalier. Two 30 gallon fuel tanks with twin 350's. We burn some fuel. My question ... the fill caps are designed to fill from dockside. Filling with 5 gallon jugs at sea will require leaning overboard. I know there are flexible lines and I also know that invariably some spill happens. My only experience refueling on the water was as a fishing guide in Alaska ... we had outboard jets and never carried 5 gallon jugs. Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: refueling at sea ????

I use 5 gallon plastic jerry cans, with 1 inch clear rubber tubing 4 feet long..gravity feel siphon style I always keep spill pad close. I used to use a hand pump bailer and a clear rubber hose.
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Re: refueling at sea ????

Use a shake syphon device and 5 gallon Gerry Jugs. Easy to do at sea and no spillage. FloTool Shaker Siphon ó 6Ft. Tube, 3.5 GPM, Model# 10801 | Barrel Hand Pumps| Northern Tool + Equipment
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Re: refueling at sea ????

We've been using one of these for two years. Works great, but a little slow...

Amazon.com: Siphon-Mate Pump, Transfer Pump for fuel. oil and water. BEC 109PC: Automotive

...but since the jury jugs tend to get crud in them over time, I fill through a filter funnel, which won't flow very fast either.

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Old 07-02-2015, 12:20   #5
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I use 5 gallon plastic jerry cans, with 1 inch clear rubber tubing 4 feet long..gravity feel siphon style I always keep spill pad close. I used to use a hand pump bailer and a clear rubber hose.

That's a great idea. I've used clear tubing on HVAC drain lines so you can see whats happening plus it's more flexible. That means I could lift the jug on deck to the appropriate height and use what I call a squeeze bulb to get it started.

What about static? Is that a concern? I know how to extinguish a tank fire but I don't know the method of prevention at sea?
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Re: refueling at sea ????

1) is it feasible to add larger built-in tanks?


2) Seems to me one of the portable gas caddies, with it's own built-in hose and nozzle might be easy.


This is just one example, but I think they come in larger sizes. Purchase Gas Caddy, Fuel Caddy, Fuel Tank, Gas Tanks, 14 Gallon Fuel Caddy, Plastic Gas Caddy, Fuel Storage Tank At Globalindustrial.Com


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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EH0ORI..._hW21ub0CTAD0G

For the price it can not be beat.

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This is the best advice. We call them "jiggle" siphon's. Leave your fuel can in the cockpit and let the siphon do the work. I've done it in the Gulf Stream.
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Re: refueling at sea ????

This is what I use for diesel
Rule iL500 Plus Portable Pump Kit

<li class="layout">Flow Rate: 500 GPH, 14 PSI Max., Port Size: 3/4"
<li class="layout">Nominal Voltage: 12 Volt DC, Max. Current Draw: 6 Amps
<li class="layout">Kit Includes Pump, 13' Hose, Spray Nozzle and 12 Volt DC Battery Clips


If it is a gas engine not sure if you can use it but it is very safe and quick
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I use clear tubes with a prime bulb to get it flowing. I always have absorption towels ready just in case.
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Re: refueling at sea ????

1 long hose
1 short hose a hand towel or a wipe up cloth

Put both tubes in can.
Put long tube in tank
Wrap opening around 2 tubes with cloth.
Blow gently in short tube (this tube only need to be barely in container
It will start siphon and fill tank.
Easy to do in rough seas and it's free. Except for tubing. No mess

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1967 Chris Craft Cavalier. Two 30 gallon fuel tanks...
Are you quite sure it has only 60 gallon fuel capacity? That seems so very low for a 33' boat. Or has someone replaced the original tanks with smaller ones? If this is the case, I suggest replacing the tanks with higher capacity.
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[QUOTE=Terra Nova;1744636]Are you quite sure it has only 60 gallon fuel capacity? That seems so very low for a 33' boat. Or has someone replaced the original tanks with smaller ones? If this is the case, I suggest replacing the tanks with higher capacity.[/QUOTE


Your exactly right. The 350's are not original. They used to be 327's. The boat spent her first 20 years in the Great Lakes and was donated to a childrens leukemia fund where it was auctioned to a Nascar driver. Who in turn had her refitted for salt water. She was again sold just prior to Katrina which she obviously survived in a hurricane hole north of Gulfport. There was some confusion on tank size. Initially we were told 60 gallons. Now just this morning I get the news we actually have twin 75 gallon tanks. Which certainly explains why she was able to travel the distances. Know that I am a novice with boating. I waited until I retired to buy my first boat. I have a lot to learn. Fortunately I have a new son in law that has spent his entire life on the water.
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1 long hose
1 short hose a hand towel or a wipe up cloth

Put both tubes in can.
Put long tube in tank
Wrap opening around 2 tubes with cloth.
Blow gently in short tube (this tube only need to be barely in container
It will start siphon and fill tank.
Easy to do in rough seas and it's free. Except for tubing. No mess

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In a pinch you can even do without the short hose. Just wrap the rag around the tube coming out of the jerry can, put your mouth to the edge, and blow into the can. It takes shockingly little pressure to get the fuel flowing.
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Re: refueling at sea ????

Never suck on a fuel hose. With a siphon pump bulb and all of the hose for $5.99, why bother with a slow shaker? Just squeeze the priming bulb a few times.

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