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Old 13-01-2013, 08:08   #16
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Wondering if a LRC is necessary to travel over to the Caribbean from Florida or if a nice trawler would do?
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A nice Trawler will do just fine.. when you think on it you have from Canada to Argentina and 50 odd countries to cruise in more or less coastal waters for most of the time... then when you get bored transit the Canal and do the W coast...
Whole new bunch of countries and islands...
you won't have time for Oceans..
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I know that Cats, can be very spacious also, but not the same as the trawler.
And you know that how exactly? Have you been on one for comparison?
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Plus, I just live the large spacious flybridge, and aft decks and such.
Do you mean you would "like" a large spacious flybridge, and aft decks and such and you feel a cat wont have that?
Again, step on that cat an I reckon you would be surprised at how much extra room it has.
Same length boat and considerably more beam would indicate that it must.

Huge aft cockpit and decks


And enough flybridge area for a party
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Wondering if a LRC is necessary to travel over to the Caribbean from Florida or if a nice trawler would do?
You can travel from FL to the Bahamas to Dom Rep, Puerto Rico, VI and down the chain of islands all the way to South America and the longest hop from one fuel stop to the next might be a couple hundred miles. Most any power boat will have that range. No need for a LRC or similar, at least as far as range.
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An alternate solution; chartering. Fly to the nearest destination you want to visit, then charter a boat for the duration you want. No need to buy a boat, until you have chartered a few times. In the long run, it is a sensible suggestion worth considering.
In my opinion, this is the probably the best suggestion in the thread. I would never counsel someone to buy a boat who has not chartered several different boats.

Getting an RYA Coastal Skipper certification is also an excellent suggestion.
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Even crewing on other people's boats on day cruises or short hops would be a hugely useful injection of reality and would be invaluable.
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Wondering if a LRC is necessary to travel over to the Caribbean from Florida or if a nice trawler would do?

GG, nice to see you're still working your plan

Sometimes an "LRC" is called that simply 'cause that's what the maker (e.g., Hatt) decided to name it... and in their case, it's a decently accurate description. Note they didn't name it a "Trans-Oceanic Cruiser."

All the comments you've seen are right on the mark: ship your boat, charter is good, etc.

People make the trip from FL to the Caribbean in 20' powerboats, so most vessels in the range you're looking at would do -- for that kind of trip -- quite nicely. Note Skipmac's description of island hopping.

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We delivered a 50' from the Bahamas to Venezuela and back several times over the past few years. With fuel bladders, the trip takes about a week.

And, we circumnavigated with a 50' and 5800 ltrs of fuel - took 5 years, but we weren't in a hurry. Our crew of five, each had their own cabin and plenty of stretch out space. On our return, we removed the Mercedes diesel for the DD671 the boat was designed to have and reduced the weight by nearly 100kg. She floated much better and actually made more speed.
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Wondering if a LRC is necessary to travel over to the Caribbean from Florida or if a nice trawler would do?
Not necessary, but it would be more comfortable. Search the George Buehler designed Diesel Ducks. They are trollers, not trawlers and use a small diesel engine. Very little rock-roll compared to trawlers.
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A nice Trawler will do just fine.. when you think on it you have from Canada to Argentina and 50 odd countries to cruise in more or less coastal waters for most of the time... then when you get bored transit the Canal and do the W coast...
Whole new bunch of countries and islands...
you won't have time for Oceans..
Coastal waters are rougher, than being out 100nm
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A true passage maker power boat is going to be a full displacement meaning 8 knot type boat. Kadey Krogens are great and also Nordhavns But 5 bedrooms is a lot to ask for unless you go with a mega yacht. And then you need a crew and lots of fuel and money. We live on a 48 Kadey Krogen and love it but no kids. A 58 is the largest they mke but they can circumnavigate. Nordhavn makes larger ones like a 62 but still you are going to have to share staterooms
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Coastal waters are rougher, than being out 100nm
Guess it depends how deep 100 miles out is...
These 'folk' are into fairweather stuff... out of hurricane season... and the Caribbean aint that rough unless you do something stupid...
Mind... I think our answers don't matter a damn...
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You 100 percent right. This lady thinks she lives in a disney movie. I would reallylike to hear her thoughts on how she is gonna sail or dock this damn thing. If without crew, she cannot. Withcrew it needs to be bigger
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You 100 percent right. This lady thinks she lives in a disney movie. I would reallylike to hear her thoughts on how she is gonna sail or dock this damn thing. If without crew, she cannot. Withcrew it needs to be bigger
And you think you looking one? A bit stupid comment I'd say..
And what comes to docking she needs just Zeus drive and a joystick and the youngest child can do that
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And you think you looking one? A bit stupid comment I'd say..
And what comes to docking she needs just Zeus drive and a joystick and the youngest child can do that

Yeah, but most boats lack a Zeus and a joystick. The OP is the same person in another thread who stated plans to share both her condo and a 65'+ something with herself and 5 kids with goals to live on her boat in cold New England.

It is one thing to dream and another for others to take dreamers with zero on the water experiences seriously.
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