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Old 06-07-2016, 16:09   #136
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'research institute', that's funny. You will be about the only one that believes that. OMG

Hey, socaldmax, I heard last year you ran aground last year whilst doing an over nighter. How's the damage, everything ok?
Ran aground? With what? I don't own a boat.

Nice try! You're about as credible as your hero, Paul Watson.

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Old 06-07-2016, 16:28   #137
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Ran aground? With what? I don't own a boat.

Nice try! You're about as credible as your hero, Paul Watson.

Can you provide a credible source that it didn't happen?
Can you provide proof you don't own a boat?

And sea shepherd I certainly support. If all my idols Paul Watson is not really one of them?
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Old 06-07-2016, 16:51   #138
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This is hilarious. Do carry on.
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Old 06-07-2016, 16:53   #139
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I like the boat heaps. Likely as much as I dislike these people.

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Old 06-07-2016, 17:49   #140
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How about a refresher!
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Old 06-07-2016, 23:58   #141
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I'm staying neutral, but curiosity got the better of me.

https://www.seashepherd.org.au/who-w...r-history.html

Personally, I think physically attacking other vessels is wrong, even if the cause is perceived as noble. This is the same justification used for waging wars regardless of whether the side is the defender or aggressor.

And man, that bow could slice tomato.
Well, that's a very legitimate position to come from. Not one I personally agree with mind you, but I respect your position.

In most circumstances I'm very apposed to vigilantism, because there is usually a police force or armed forces that will police the problem. But when it comes to organised poaching in international waters, or even around impoverished nations that can't afford a navy or police capable of acting, or where as in the case of killing whales in the southern whale sanctuary, then there simply is no one to police the law. Into that vacancy comes the purpose and justification of SS. That's just my view of course.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:13   #142
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The bow is impressive!!!
I would be curious to know how they have modified this boat for their purpose. Besides being wave piercing the "axe" bow certainly looks intimidating. I notice in the photo I posted earlier of the supper structure being craned into place that the stem itself is fairly large diameter round tube that has the hull plating welded to it.

I wonder if they fill the tube with concrete or maybe fill a section of the bow. I assume the hull is built for working in ice which presumably added some weight to the design but I don't think they are planning on hauling the kind of heavy equipment they would if they were servicing oil platforms so it probably evens out.

For those who questioned whether the boat looked like it was hogging here is a profile pic from Damen. The deeper forefoot is said to prevent pounding by stopping the bow from completely exiting the water if the boat hobby horses.
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Here's a shot of the props.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:27   #144
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Here's a shot of the props.
The metal sheeting in this picture looks very thin.
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Old 07-07-2016, 03:30   #145
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fwiw, i don't think you can classify workboats in terms of beauty as form is defined by function.
as for the politics part, i stick to the OP's request for once :P
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fwiw, i don't think you can classify workboats in terms of beauty as form is defined by function.
as for the politics part, i stick to the OP's request for once :P
What about this 80 foot 'Beauty'
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i like the clipper bow.
the rig looks a bit undersized.
or the PH is oversized.
probably would look better as a Schooner.
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Old 07-07-2016, 23:56   #148
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i like the clipper bow.
the rig looks a bit undersized.
or the PH is oversized.
probably would look better as a Schooner.
It's a ketch, so the rig won't be as big as in a sloop.
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The metal sheeting in this picture looks very thin.
Most work boats of that size aren't very thick. Thick enough but when each plate is welded to the frames or strakes it can pull the plate in or out causing what you see I the picture. It's often common down here in the GOM. even larger supply vessels have some of that somewhere. They are work boats, not pretty pleasure yachts.

Also, with the type and amount of props this vessel has(not sure of the length, haven't seen anything regarding it here) but this boat is most likely a fast vessel similar to a large crew boat.
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I would be curious to know how they have modified this boat for their purpose. Besides being wave piercing the "axe" bow certainly looks intimidating. I notice in the photo I posted earlier of the supper structure being craned into place that the stem itself is fairly large diameter round tube that has the hull plating welded to it.

I wonder if they fill the tube with concrete or maybe fill a section of the bow. I assume the hull is built for working in ice which presumably added some weight to the design but I don't think they are planning on hauling the kind of heavy equipment they would if they were servicing oil platforms so it probably evens out.

For those who questioned whether the boat looked like it was hogging here is a profile pic from Damen. The deeper forefoot is said to prevent pounding by stopping the bow from completely exiting the water if the boat hobby horses.
As I said before, I doubt this is built for ice. Though it could be classed for ice due to the broad range SS goes globally. Regarding the bow, I also strongly doubt it is filled with concrete or any besides air. Added deadweight on any vessel is backwards thinking. It cause more hull drag and the bow to sit lower in the water which causes extra fuel burn and slower speeds. Not to mention it takes away from the amount of actual cargo it can hold. It is most likely reinforced dead space because it is, up to the where the house begins, all collision zone and a forepeak storage space with chain locker.

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https://www.inverse.com/article/1360...arctica-crooks

From article, it is a 175' fast vessel making speeds of 30 kts. That's is your typical oil industry crew boat size and speed here in the Gulf of Mexico.

I work down here on a 300' OSV, so I see them daily. Though, no axe bow fast vessels yet to make it down here, just the traditional bows.

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