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23-03-2016, 14:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2016
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New Member Have Many Questions
I just joined this site. Retiring next spring. Want to purchase a live aboard cabin cruiser around 30-40 feet. One that is older but in fair to great shape. $10,000 or so. Also need information on best live aboard marinas in Texas and Florida, both fresh and saltwater. Please help me. Thanks, Curt.
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23-03-2016, 14:52
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,364
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Re: new member have many questions
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23-03-2016, 15:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,483
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Re: new member have many questions
Your budget way too low for the size you list. If you buy a 40 ft for $10k, plan on easily putting $40k more into it. Of course an exception would be if you just want to tie it to a dock and live aboard.
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23-03-2016, 16:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NSW Australia
Boat: Traditional 30
Posts: 1,980
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Re: new member have many questions
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Originally Posted by cuetip69
I just joined this site. Retiring next spring. Want to purchase a live aboard cabin cruiser around 30-40 feet. One that is older but in fair to great shape. $10,000 or so. Also need information on best live aboard marinas in Texas and Florida, both fresh and saltwater. Please help me. Thanks, Curt.
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As others have said, $10 k isnt enough unless you plan on never leaving the dock. If you plan to just park it in an marina and live on it, you would probably get away with it -just! But if you plan on actually using it, that 10k will blow out very very quickly.
Btw. there is a massive difference in the size of a 30 footer to a 40 footer. To generalize each foot longer increases beam and headroom substantially.
Get you self down to a few marinas and talk to some owners. Most owners are happy to show off their boats. Once you get a look few a few, you will start to get an indication of what size you really need.
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24-03-2016, 03:50
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,139
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Re: new member have many questions
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Curt.
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24-03-2016, 08:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Saint Lucie county FLa
Boat: 35' Pearson sloop
Posts: 389
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Re: new member have many questions
Holy Cow! $10,000 is barely the price of a small runabout, used and needing repair! You either need to spend more time saving before buying, or get ready to do a whole bunch of expensive work on something in really down condition. I speak from experience, I have a 35 Pearson that I found as a derilect and I now have close to 40K in it! was it worth it? I don't know, I know I can't sell it for 40!!
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24-03-2016, 08:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bend, OR
Boat: Brewer designed Pacific 43 in fiberglass. Center cockpit set up for long-distance single handing.
Posts: 472
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Re: new member have many questions
I just ran you criteria on Yacht World and surprisingly there are a great many options if you don't get too area specific.
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24-03-2016, 11:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Salish Sea
Boat: 44 foot Pacemaker Aft Cabin
Posts: 4
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
At that price you should look at old wooden boats not in the best shape and/or repossessed boats. We found our 44' 1966 Aft Cabin Pacemaker at a brokerage handling bank repossessions asking $30K. After a couple years of looking at it and after verifying the engines and hull were sound, we offered $6K and accepted the bank counter offer at $10K. Since then (2009), we've put in over $40k for her restoration - wood rot repairs, replacing/overhauling the electrical, fresh water, black water, propane systems and appliances doing most of the work ourselves. We've yet to replace the original diesel generator and are in the process of replacing aging electronics. Take your time to carefully select your diamond in the rough but expect to put a lot into her to get her into live aboard condition. We're live aboard that are very glad we decided not to go below 40'.
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24-03-2016, 14:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Boat: 2018 Seadoo GTX 230
Posts: 1,059
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
If you just want to o be aboard at a marina I could live in a 30' sailboat but not a 30' motorboat. Now at 40' a couple could live on either so 1 person would be very comfotable. But the sailboat will always offer more living space per foot than a motorboat.
10k is not very much money. How can you even retire?
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24-03-2016, 15:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Ohlson 29
Posts: 1,519
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
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Originally Posted by tuffr2
But the sailboat will always offer more living space per foot than a motorboat.
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What kind of motorboats is this topic about?
Not sure what a "cabin cruiser" is, but having I have never been on a motorboat that offers less space then a sailboat - quite the opposite.
Maybe true for what we call speedboats here, but those aren't exactly liveaboards either?
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24-03-2016, 18:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Salish Sea
Boat: 44 foot Pacemaker Aft Cabin
Posts: 4
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
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Originally Posted by tuffr2
If you just want to o be aboard at a marina I could live in a 30' sailboat but not a 30' motorboat. Now at 40' a couple could live on either so 1 person would be very comfotable. But the sailboat will always offer more living space per foot than a motorboat.
10k is not very much money. How can you even retire?
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Tuffr2, We switched from sailing to a power boat because of the HUGE difference in available living space per foot in a motor boat over that of a sailboat, pun emphasized. Much more living space and much larger windows that can open for much more view and airflow. Hopefully your post was in total jest because it is so opposite the easily provable truth. You'll get very little agreement from those of us who have experienced both worlds or spent some time around power and sail.
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24-03-2016, 18:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New Franklin, Ohio
Boat: Homebuilt schooner 64 ft. Sold.
Posts: 1,486
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
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Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle
What kind of motorboats is this topic about?
Not sure what a "cabin cruiser" is, but having I have never been on a motorboat that offers less space then a sailboat - quite the opposite.
Maybe true for what we call speedboats here, but those aren't exactly liveaboards either?
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I was thinking the same thing, I wonder if the poster just got confused in his wording. A 30ft power boat has a lot more living space than a 30ft sailboat.
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24-03-2016, 18:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New Franklin, Ohio
Boat: Homebuilt schooner 64 ft. Sold.
Posts: 1,486
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Re: new member have many questions
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Originally Posted by seasick
I just ran you criteria on Yacht World and surprisingly there are a great many options if you don't get too area specific.
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Yes, totally agree. In Ohio many people have bailed from their power-boats due to the last economic downturn and the cost of fuel. Yes, things have rebounded but not so much in the boating market. Yes, $10,000 is a bit low but I say save-up a few more bucks and give it a go. As to live-aboard marinas, go to Activecaptain or waterwaysguide.com or marinas.com and you will find what you want. These links should be at the head of every page on CruisersForum as we get asked this question two or three times a week. Use the internet folks, it's a wonderful thing.
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24-03-2016, 19:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,034
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
If OP has good DIY skills it may be quite doable. Several years ago, the spring after Sandy, I was at a small local riverside marina, all power boats, and I met a guy there who picked up from an insurance/salvage auction in NY/NJ area a diesel powered 31ft trawler for $1,000.00. Sure it needed some interior work, repaint deck and topsides, etc. But the guy brought it to MA on its own power and was happy as a clam since he planned it for a liveaboard and Great Loop travel.
The reason I was there was a 28ft power boat which a friend of mine has asked me to look into as he had a chance to get a mooring not too far from mine and was going to use it as a fishing and chill out summer pad for his family. The asking price was $2,800 incl. the club membership which was $1,000 value by itself. By the time I got to talk to the owner he lowered the asking price to $2,000 and was open to offers for immediate sale. My friend did not move fast enough and that boat sold within a few days. Was your regular Bayliner/Searay 30 year old but the gas engine started and other than its age everything was there for immediate use and occupancy. It's only noticeable great fault was that it needed a new canvas.
The deals are there but may be just not where you live.
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24-03-2016, 21:17
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Oregon to Alaska
Boat: Wheeler Shipyard 83' ex USCG
Posts: 3,499
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Re: New Member Have Many Questions
Here, on the US West Coast, there are several boats for sale, 40'+ for under $10,000. They are wood. But they need lots of work. If you know marine carpentry, that may work for you. If you don't know marine wood working or are a house carpenter, buy a fiberglass boat.
For a less expensive boat look in Craig's list rather than yachting sites. Search for "project boat".
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