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Old 21-06-2014, 12:27   #16
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I never had any formal training, I just kept operating larger and larger boats until I stopped working commercially and went to law school. Frankly I find large boats easier to handle than small ones, you have to think further ahead, but a 12' inflatable skids all over the place, where a 100' yacht just goes the direction you put it. Of course it will keep going the direction you tell it to regardless of docks, other boats, people, ect...
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I never had any formal training, I just kept operating larger and larger boats until I stopped working commercially and went to law school. Frankly I find large boats easier to handle than small ones, you have to think further ahead, but a 12' inflatable skids all over the place, where a 100' yacht just goes the direction you put it. Of course it will keep going the direction you tell it to regardless of docks, other boats, people, ect...
Style of boat, form or propulsion impact greatly. We test drove a 64' Pershing with surface drives. It was clearly built for speed and not ride. But for docking it was absolutely horrible.
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You started sailing with lessons. Do the same with power boating.
Not so much in my opinion other than learning the Rules , navigation, weather and basic seamanship.

I think power boating is much easier to learn via books, observation and practicing maneuvers (touch and go) in quiet locations.....

Sailing lessons are by comparison, far more technical in harnessing the wind and safe communication with crew.

Power Squadren courses to "Ship handling for Masters" will all teach you some fulcrum tricks but it really takes quiet individual practice to 'feel' the boat and become one with it....(You can't teach that!)
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Not so much in my opinion other than learning the Rules , navigation, weather and basic seamanship.

I think power boating is much easier to learn via books, observation and practicing maneuvers (touch and go) in quiet locations.....

Sailing lessons are by comparison, far more technical in harnessing the wind and safe communication with crew.

Power Squadren courses to "Ship handling for Masters" will all teach you some fulcrum tricks but it really takes quiet individual practice to 'feel' the boat and become one with it....(You can't teach that!)
Depends on the boat but may have a good bit of equipment he isn't familiar with that someone can help his learning curve. If he has twin engines, then that's a new experience. Bow thrusters. Plus just learning everything. I just believe some hands on training combined with the book or classroom accelerates the learning experience.

We actually took Captains courses for the book learning part and had a captain train us on our boat. And the learning is ongoing. In fact will cross the threshold next week to go from Inland to Near Coastal Masters and still another six to nine months to go from 50 Ton to 100 Ton. We're not doing it for the licenses but for the knowledge and we continue to take courses when we can. Latest were all medical related. Always something to learn. Ok, maybe we have a sickness or an addiction perhaps to the pursuit of knowledge. Guilty as charged.

Our experience learning with a captain was us operating and doing and him instructing, watching and correcting. It was just very helpful to learn techniques for things like our first times traveling through inlets.
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Style of boat, form or propulsion impact greatly. We test drove a 64' Pershing with surface drives. It was clearly built for speed and not ride. But for docking it was absolutely horrible.
True. But past a certain size most powerboats have at least two engines. So it's just learning how a particular boat handles low power situations. Some spin slowly, others slide a lot in breeze, but once you get twin engines a lot of that is controllable. My experience was all in recreational boats, I never worked the commercial side but from what I understand they really vary a lot. Everything from station keeping tugs that can perfectly maintain a GPS position, to jack up rigs that aren't so much steered as crashed slowly into dock.

The worst boat for control I have ever dealt with was a 60' offshore race boat with three 1100hp engines. It had so little in the water a sneeze would blow it off course, and the engines were to powerful idle was 15kn. This boat is the only one I regularly needed shore crew to dock safely. It was just uncontrollable without. Oh it also didn't have reverse, since apparently reverse was too heavy.
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Oh it also didn't have reverse, since apparently reverse was too heavy.
Like racing hydroplanes which not only do not have reverse, will not continue to float when sitting. So while waiting always have someone holding the back up.
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Power boats in OZ, every one gets to drive the boat, You never know what will happen,
So every one can drive, Male and Female, Kids, It makes no difference,
They are all taught, Par for the course I suppose,
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Power boats in OZ, every one gets to drive the boat, You never know what will happen,
So every one can drive, Male and Female, Kids, It makes no difference,
They are all taught, Par for the course I suppose,
Well, on smaller boats and inland you see that here. As the boat size increases and it moves coastal, less so.

Funny, right now we have 10 people on board. 6 of those have Captains licenses, 2 others are learning and have some experience but not enough to qualify for any level license yet. They can both handle boats although wouldn't go out offshore by themselves. 1 other has some interest. 1 has zero interest in driving the boat.
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My old v-drive Hemi flattie at Tahoe 30 years ago. No reverse either which is a good thing. It always lit off with a bark at 2000 rpm before it would settle down to a lumpy 1000 rpm idle. If it had reverse it would swamp itself and sink on start up. Typically after launch I would start in neutral and let it warm up, stop it, put it in gear and start it. Same for water skiing, engine off in gear, skier yells "hit it" and start in gear.

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Power boaters DO have more fun!
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Power boaters DO have more fun!
Yeah... so it seems... obviously read the wrong books..
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Yeah... so it seems... obviously read the wrong books..
That was decidedly not our idea of fun. Unfortunately saw way too much of that on the lake. Some around the coast, but nothing like a weekend or holiday on the lake.
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My Daddy taught me, a cuff to the right ear to go port, cuff to the left ear to go starboard. Thump on the forehead to stop. You pick it up quick or get a lot of bruises and hard of hearing, what?

You might enjoy that if you are a masochist. [might be too deep for here]
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The specs on that powerboat..

38'
8.5' beam
10,000 lb
Twin 525 hp for 96 mph
Fuel burn 90 gallons per hour.
Optional twin 700 hp for 114 mph

For $500 per hour, it didn't look like it was that much fun.

6 kt works for me.
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