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Old 10-09-2013, 19:27   #106
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Here is one, and a bargain at only $300k Cheoy Lee 55. Older boat. Having looked at all the pics, it looks like a winner for you. Not a lux yacht, something kids can spill things on if you know what I mean. And look at that sweet wood stove! That says Boston all over it. BTW, I lived in Amherst, MA for many years.

I personally think you should really considering buying two boats, a smaller trawler (say 40ft), and a (40ft) sailing catamaran. Can use the cat as a day sailer / weekender, and the trawler as the base home/kitchen. Kids can choose where to sleep.



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I saw this boat when we went to Florida last week. It's a piece of crap. (IMO) Thanks for posting it

Funny that you say 2 boats. That was part of the original plan a year ago. We were considering 2 boats, about 40-45 each. We were going to do 1 power and 1 cat. Plenty of room for everyone, and, best of both worlds. I posted a thread. Something like "Anyone have 2 boats?" And the plan was torn apart. The general consensus was that 2 boats would be way too much maintenance, so we abandoned the idea.
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Old 10-09-2013, 19:30   #107
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This boat intrigues me with two engine and one prop. I saw this on a couple of older boats with two smaller HP engines where coupled to a single shaft. There are twin engine and two props that are small hp that equals the HP of one big single. Choy Lee and Defever made several twin engine. If I was going to build a boat, it would have twin small engines and props. Just because a boat has twin engines does not mean it is not a long range and fuel efficient.


A raised pilot house, like the Eagle, can be a separate area to hang out, read, nap, etc. I agree the explore pilot house might/may give additional room below and be another state room. Many of the explore the house is pulled back toward the stern, so does it really give more/extra room? It sounds like you are move toward a comfortable live aboard and away from long range blue water? I still think you should go back and review several of the boats you passed over.

The concern I have when newbies say they want to pay 100%, no financing are: 1) they are going to run out/short of money, cash is king or in your/our case queen. 2) will not have the benefits a bank/finance can offer a buyer which short of level the playing field. Took us 6 years before we paid off the Eagle as unexpected expenses kept popping up.
You make good points Phil. The expedition model does pull the pilothouse back and up, so maybe you don't gain more interior space, but do you gain more foredeck space? I don't know, but I guess I love the visibility and the separateness.

What I hate about financing, besides monthly payments and interest is having to give your blood type, shoe size and your mom's shoe size to get the loan. Jumping through hoops stinks. I am too old for that stuff
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:40   #109
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I saw this boat when we went to Florida last week. It's a piece of crap. (IMO) Thanks for posting it
It did look like just the one for you. What was crap about it? I did notice the furniture was not new.. Given the lack of options, can it be refurbished?

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Funny that you say 2 boats. That was part of the original plan a year ago. We were considering 2 boats, about 40-45 each. We were going to do 1 power and 1 cat. Plenty of room for everyone, and, best of both worlds. I posted a thread. Something like "Anyone have 2 boats?" And the plan was torn apart. The general consensus was that 2 boats would be way too much maintenance, so we abandoned the idea.
Yes there are disadvantages, but if mostly staying put I think it would be OK.
If always on the move, a single boat is best.
And btw, I didn't think you were too keen on taking 'consensus' advice,
as almost everyone thinks you should at least charter or start with a smaller boat.
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I saw this boat when we went to Florida last week. It's a piece of crap. (IMO) Thanks for posting it

Funny that you say 2 boats. That was part of the original plan a year ago. We were considering 2 boats, about 40-45 each. We were going to do 1 power and 1 cat. Plenty of room for everyone, and, best of both worlds. I posted a thread. Something like "Anyone have 2 boats?" And the plan was torn apart. The general consensus was that 2 boats would be way too much maintenance, so we abandoned the idea.

So why was it a piece of crap? As long the basic boat is sound the rest of the boat can be up graded. The Eagle was ugly terrible looking and electronic dated but the boat was fundamentally structural sound. Do donít pass up a boat because your impression of it is not good.
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And btw, I didn't think you were too keen on taking 'consensus' advice,
as almost everyone thinks you should at least charter or start with a smaller boat.
I just want her to at least try a powercat. After she discovers the artistry in which she can maneuver this type of boat in close quarters with its wide spaced props, she might be sold on the idea. The economy of operation would just be a bonus, as the main feature would be her piloting her own boat in short order. Sure beats needing "Capt Ron" to come along.
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So why was it a piece of crap? As long the basic boat is sound the rest of the boat can be up graded. The Eagle was ugly terrible looking and electronic dated but the boat was fundamentally structural sound. Do donít pass up a boat because your impression of it is not good.
it had water staining from leaks everywhere I looked.
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It did look like just the one for you. What was crap about it? I did notice the furniture was not new.. Given the lack of options, can it be refurbished?



Yes there are disadvantages, but if mostly staying put I think it would be OK.
If always on the move, a single boat is best.
And btw, I didn't think you were too keen on taking 'consensus' advice,
as almost everyone thinks you should at least charter or start with a smaller boat.
Some advice I take. When 98% of folks say 2 boats is no good, I'll head that advice, but when many say start smaller, and I know that I can't jamn 7 into something smaller, I pass on that
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it had water staining from leaks everywhere I looked.
Not the end of the world, but I can understand wanting 'move-in' ready.

So I found another one of those boats, it has 3 cabins, $320k

Trawler : Cheoy Lee 55 : Motor Yacht for sale

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And if she doesn't like your advice, then you're a "nasty naysayer hater". Some of us found that out the hard way.
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In OZ, but the bigger version of the 55, with 4 cabins, $525k


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Another 61 with 4 cabins $600k


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And if she doesn't like your advice, then you're a "nasty naysayer hater". Some of us found that out the hard way.
I've been in the boat business like this long enough to have seen this before.

someone makes a grand show of all the cash they have to blow on a yacht, but come up with all kinds of reasons they just can't find the right boat. They eventually fade away and 9 times in 10 they were just BSing the whole time.
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Another shot over the bow. Boatguy 30, I'm sure you have had to deal with the dreamers and tire kickers, but my impression of GG is she is determined to learn as much as she can and buy with more knowledge than any other first time buyer. Even though she tends to skip a few steps in the process like maybe doing a charter, or trying something like a lighter displacement powercat, I feel she will become a boat owner and the education will continue.
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Another shot over the bow. Boatguy 30, I'm sure you have had to deal with the dreamers and tire kickers, but my impression of GG is she is determined to learn as much as she can and buy with more knowledge than any other first time buyer. Even though she tends to skip a few steps in the process like maybe doing a charter, or trying something like a lighter displacement powercat, I feel she will become a boat owner and the education will continue.

+1. Don't think she's just a tire kicker. Don't think she'll have a problem starting with a larger yacht either. It's all about attitude.
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