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Old 16-09-2013, 08:36   #1
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Crime Stats in Caribbean

Don't know if this site has been posted before, but it gives an idea about what type of actual crime is going on in the Caribbean and central America these days. Interesting to me as I am cruising in the Caribbean last couple of years. Also sheds new light on the gun on boat debate. I would not want to be in some of the situations described without my gun.
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Old 16-09-2013, 08:48   #2
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

with gun, searches that ARE done by officiales will place you into a special category.

have you compared these stats with those of , say, your town, the biggest cities and other locales around the world,or for that matter, anywhere else with similar population and circumstances.
have you compared them to walking across the street while blindfolded......

even ALONE and being a female, old and disabled, i find this life in alleged crime riddled mexico much more laid back and safer than in anyplace, usa.
i think hong kong and singapore might be found more deadly to cruisers than either mexico or caribean or even both combined somehow.

the fact is , after my initial--whollycrapanotheroneofthesethreads, i said---laughing all the way===


enjoy the troll.

this is old stuff,mon---wake up and learn search function. we have axed this to death more than 4 times in past few years. mebbe more than 40 times.....
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Old 16-09-2013, 08:51   #3
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

Hooray! A gun thread!
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lets see how long it will last this time.....


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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

As I have posted in the past the violent crime rate in Europe is twice has high as in the US.
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Old 16-09-2013, 17:25   #6
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

Rourkeh,

I appreciate your post, it is important that cruisers be reminded how potentially dangerous some areas in the Caribbean have become. We personally know:

One cruiser who was stabbed,
Three boats robbed at gun point
One cruiser attacked with a machete
And I shared a 6-pack with someone who subsequently murdered Don North a fellow cruiser

Things have changed as the Dutchman murdered in Margarita learned a week ago.

If you register on www.freecruisingguides.com you can download a good attempt to quantify crime against cruisers.

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I think we should ban all travel to the third world, no longer go outside, and make kids wear helmets...
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

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I think we should ban all travel to the third world, no longer go outside, and make kids wear helmets...
We just returned from visiting the US - I think that has already been done there...

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As I have posted in the past the violent crime rate in Europe is twice has high as in the US.
I'd much rather get beat with a pipe than killed with a gun.

Seriously what issue of NRA monthly does this "study" come from? I guess if don't count US murders as violent crime, eh? It's all self defense these days.
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Old 17-09-2013, 08:40   #11
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

Interesting responses to my post. I am not interested in starting a gun onboard discussion, nor am I looking to hear about how there is less crime in Kaffeklubben Island than there is on the south side of Detroit. I am in the Caribbean and do not plan on sailing to Detroit EVER. I was asking if anyone had seen the site I posted and was hoping to get some feedback on CURRENT crime in the Caribbean and maybe locate other similar sites. I have been down here since 2008 and as I move around it would be nice to avoid countries that are having excessive crime problems TODAY. For example, Nassau is like Beirut as far as I can tell, and has a per capita murder rate as high as New York City, I lived in Costa Rica from 08’-10’ and every person in the town I was in had been robbed at least once, a poker buddy’s house was broken into in the middle of the night and he and his wife were savagely beaten, she was raped and they were both locked in a shed and left for days, so I moved. I am currently in St Maarten and my friend went to the electrical supply store the other day to get parts for the boat and while he was there two guys with guns and masks stormed in and robbed everyone. See the type of current information that interests me, if I have enough current real time crime information it will help me avoid bad spots before I get there. I was not looking to hear from people in Toledo Kansas who want to theorize about safety in places they have never been. Any help with CURRENT SAFETY INFORMATION IN THE CARIBBEAN would be appreciated. Maybe the all caps will help with the focus of the discussion. Thanks
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Old 17-09-2013, 08:56   #12
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

Rourkeh, the best CURRENT info (but no stats) was on the "Safety & Security" SSB net. This was a daily net (8am on 8104?) when we were last in the Caribbean, but that was in 2003 & I don't know if it's still going. AFAIK, Venezuela is still a trouble spot but most of the rest of the Eastern Caribbean only have sporadic problems (which, admittedly, can still hurt if you get hit).
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I would think you might not want to literally end you post with the word: gun.
If you're weren't interested in this type of posts.
I would recommend a well fortified ranch in Montana or Wyoming as your best bet. hard to imagine where all those guns have come from? Sure proud to say "Made in the USA"
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

Well said Rourkeh.

As I wrote in my post, the best statistics are at www.freecruisingguides.com

But you have to register to be allowed to download the excellent data collected and collated by Dr. Catherine Hebson.

For the inexperienced Caribbean cruiser...

Many locations, Bonaire being one, are safer than mooring field outside Coconut Grove FL where I live when not in the Caribbean.

Many locations are as or more dangerous than anywhere in the US.

A 2007 report from the World Bank estimated that the overall murder rate in the Caribbean was 30 per 100,000 inhabitants, four times that in North America. High rates of unemployment and a lack of economic development, along with narcotics trafficking, breed crime, violence, and gangs in many Caribbean nations.


In places like Venezuela and even St Martin the local violence spills over into the cruising community.


If anybody would like the accurate statistics about kids, bikes and helmets I will send them privately.
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Re: Crime Stats in Caribbean

I haven't been in the Caribbean since 2011, but I detected a severe case of burnout at the Caribbean Safety and Security Net. I'd guess that their stats are pretty dated unless someone new has taken over.
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