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Old 21-01-2013, 18:01   #166
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GG,

It was my pleasure, as I said I felt a bit of deja vu reading your posts. For me it was family sailing on the confines of lakes that got me wanting no barriers. 20 years ago I bought a old Cal 40 ex race boat, matched the purchase price adding all the cruising goodies and sailed single handed from Long Beach to Mulege, Mexico in the Sea of Cortez. I was hooked, and later got accepted (after re-taking some courses) to the California Maritime Academy. Now my passion was a profession, and even though I no longer had a choice of destinations or schedules, still enjoyed my sea time. I had to retire earlier than I planned to care for my dad. He is living with me, and at 93 doing pretty good. He used to race bicycles till age 85. When my duties to my dad are over, I will be cruising again, so hope to see you and your kids out there at some pristine anchorage.
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Old 21-01-2013, 18:07   #167
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Here you go... 4 en-suite doubles... plus a masters cabin aft and 4 solo bunks up front... tonsa room... you can afford it so why stick to the one shop
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Thanks for the tip. I wish they had posted more info, but the salon is huge, and the price is nice.
The mechanical areas looked very clean and at that price you could remove the dinette, I didn't like it either. Sometimes once you see something like that is works better than you think.
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Here is more info on Greggegner's suggestion, plus a $20K drop on asking price.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=18984&url=
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Old 21-01-2013, 20:15   #170
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Whilst not suggesting you purchase a Dashew vessel, it would be very worthwhile reading Dashew's concepts of cruising. will give you some perspective into the concept of economical fuel usage for long distance cruising as distinct from the more traditional power concepts. Will take some time.

SetSail » Intro to FPB Program

His 4 volume Cruising Encyclopedia is one of the best cruising texts available wether sail or trawler.

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There are cats and cats. All are no tthe same as with the trawlers. Need to try some.
That may be but, I've been on a number of different cats probably close to 20 over the years. Mostly cats in the 45 to 48 foot range. Just last week I was on one during a charter in the Virgins watching the cabin table shake as the waves pounded under the bridge deck. The boom and vibration as the waves hit below made me glad it was not my boat. Though I agree every boat design has it's trade offs.
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Another thing you might want to consider is the height above the water of whatever you boat you decide on. For example if you think you might someday ever want to cruise up the Erie Canal. I think the height limit is 15 feet. I did the trip with my sailboat a few years ago but, I had to drop the 52 foot mast on deck. Not so easy to do on a trawler height is higher than the canal bridges.
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Whilst not suggesting you purchase a Dashew vessel, it would be very worthwhile reading Dashew's concepts of cruising. will give you some perspective into the concept of economical fuel usage for long distance cruising as distinct from the more traditional power concepts. Will take some time.

SetSail » Intro to FPB Program

His 4 volume Cruising Encyclopedia is one of the best cruising texts available wether sail or trawler.

Instant Library

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Great minds think alike. I also suggested in post #113 Steve Dashew. lol
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This might help on the education:
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It might help if you gave an indication as to what it was you want people to download.
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Our idea of real transoceanic cruises -- not sorta "local" coastal cruising like throughtout the Caribbean -- is a charter on the Royal Clipper.



But actually, that made it much easier to spec out the boat we will use over 99.9% of our time.

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We've got a Hatteras 48 and I think it's a very well designed and founded boat in every respect. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a good used Hatteras. Even one from 1982...

Ours has the Detroit Diesel 2 x 435 HP setup whereas the factory standard was 2 x 265 HP. If I had the choice, I'd go with the smaller engines for a few reasons. First, I like mooching along at trawler speeds of about 8 knots - this boat will do nearly 20 but it isn't really that enjoyable. Secondly, the smaller engines aren't turbocharged so running them at 8-10 knots gives them a good workout. Finally, the smaller DD engines aren't too bad on fuel.

If it needs a new Genset you can also look at downsizing that. The old boats were sized for incandescent lighting, old TV's, electric cookers, household appliances, etc. Nearly every new powered appliance will either be soft-start and/or more efficient. Plus you can change to LED lighting, flat screen TV, etc. All in, you can easily reduce your electrical consumption and from that the Genset.

All in, very good boats with well thought out systems. If you buy an old one, I'd budget a good chunk of cash to do a basic refit of electronics etc. and upgrade some of the more outdated systems aboard.

We've had ours for 18 months now and love it.
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try this website for some outstanding buys...

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Old 22-01-2013, 14:30   #180
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Voyaging Under Power, 4th Edition
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This book as a classic on pasagemaking across oceans with a powerboat
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