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Old 27-11-2011, 15:46   #16
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

As I recall, those DeFevers built in Japan in the 70's were better built than those constructed later in Taiwan. I don't believe that there were any built of fiberglass that came out of Japan at the time but I could be corrected. Certainly the 54 footers were of mahogany with oak ribs... I believe that one of the main reasons for the move to Taiwan was cost according to Art DeFever. Capt Phil
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I am thinking about buying a 1990 Defever Pilothouse. Any advice on problems to look for on this model ? Is Defever a good brand of boat? Any problems with them over the years?

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Look for rotten plywood cores, rotten "shingle" core, large voids in the laminate due to poor quality chopper work, low quality lumber rotting in structural members, poor fairing, etc. I like these designs but the ones from Taiwan or China (which is most of them) have some very low quality construction work. Here's a few pics of a rotten boat deck I did. Look at the size of the voids and delams....
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Old 27-11-2011, 18:16   #18
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

Really shocking photos, minaret... as one who is in the repair business and has seen these defects up close and personal, your observations are worth their weight in gold. Have you shared these with Art DeFever? He would be appaled, I'm sure. My old DeFever was built in 1974 Hull#4 out of the Oriental Boatyard in Japan, wooden hull with CAT D330's and was the best boat I ever owned. Sorry to see the deterioration of workmanship in the Taiwan yards of this finely designed vessel. Capt Phil
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

I'm sure the Japanese boats are a whole different animal. After all they are very serious about woodwork there and have a great tradition of woodworking. And I'm pretty sure no self-respecting Japanese woodworker would have anything to do with some of the construction techniques I've seen come from some of the Taiwanese yards.
I'm sure Art knows the deal and wouldn't be surprised, after all designers dont generally have much control over what happens with a design once they've sold the rights to Taiwan. I believe this one resulted in a massive lawsuit, so I'd be surprised if he didn't hear about it. This is a Taiwanese boat, but I've worked on Chinese ones as well and they aren't much better. There's a reason they are the cheapest trawler on the market. If you look carefully, you can see that the superstructure was built in ply and lumber beams and then glassed over, hence all the vast quantities of bondo. Terrible shame really, they could be very nice boats if done right. But I wouldn't buy a Taiwanese or Chinese one as it is, lifespan will be too limited by the construction technique. This also explains the severe unfairness, as each boat is essentially built one off as regards the superstructure. Saves on tooling expense, as labor is much cheaper than tooling there...
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

Such a shame
I was only looking this morning at what I could buy OS and be happy with and DeFever was on the list.
It was a 1972 model I was lusting for
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

Jim, your post and the replys of others was some time ago. Did you get a DeFever? I have been looking for almost a year at trawlers in general and have now started to focus on DeFever. Love to have a GB, but my budget will not allow that. Any advise from you or the others? I am trying to find a trawler with two queen cabins and two heads. I have been on a GB 49 set up like that and seen a similar set up on the Flemming...
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

There is a fabulous trawler for sale at 75k down here in Bocas, Twin Lehmans and cherried out. I think it's a DeFever.
Contact Bocas Marina, Bocas Del Tora, Panama.
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Re: Advice on Buying DeFever Trawler

My old DeFever 54 is for sale in San Diego... mahogany hull, CAT D330's, well equipped and the new owner has had her for around 6-7 years and kept her in good shape, I believe. Price has dropped as well... I think she is listed on Yachtworld but only has one walkaround queen. Worth a look if wood doesn't bother you. Good Hunting... Phil
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There is a fabulous trawler for sale at 75k down here in Bocas, Twin Lehmans and cherried out. I think it's a DeFever.
Contact Bocas Marina, Bocas Del Tora, Panama.
Is it this 49 footer they list here for 160k asking?
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