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Old 15-10-2011, 20:52   #121
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

My post refers to ABSOLUTELY no one on this forum......It is directed towards the Bozos on the Docks that offer bad advice, UN-educated guesses and downright dangerous opinions....the befuddle/scare and confuse.

Once again, the original post does not repeat...does not impugn the knowledge base of this forum

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I am crushed and dismayed...first Chief puts up a post asking about incompetent advice and I am sure he is referring either to me or possibly Don Lucas and then someone puts up a list of all the crimes on my rap sheet Thankfully Gord came to the defense debunking it all as a myth referring to Congress, whew! Congress has got me off the hook again.

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Old 15-10-2011, 22:21   #122
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I know, I know! I can't do it though. I found some rotten rot that must be fixed and I can't do that till I get her covered up. To make matters worse I don't have any time off to get at it. The situation will soon be rectified however and I will be down at the dock instead of perusing the forum.

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You do know it's going to start snowing soon?
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You do know it's going to start snowing soon?
wont snow here....
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Old 16-10-2011, 00:28   #124
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

Inexperienced arm-chair experts offer advice for three reasons:
  1. There are people who listen to them
  2. Assuming the identity of an expert with expert knowledge makes these inexperienced arm-chair experts feel good.
  3. Forums, Groups, and other electronic/internet meeting places allow frauds to disguise their actual experience and knowledge.
You know who you are and your mother would not be proud of you.

I wish that I had realized this 10 years ago. I would not have wasted assets and time on wrong advice.

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Old 16-10-2011, 05:00   #125
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Inexperienced arm-chair experts offer advice for three reasons:
  1. There are people who listen to them
  2. Assuming the identity of an expert with expert knowledge makes these inexperienced arm-chair experts feel good.
  3. Forums, Groups, and other electronic/internet meeting places allow frauds to disguise their actual experience and knowledge.
You know who you are and your mother would not be proud of you.

I wish that I had realized this 10 years ago. I would not have wasted assets and time on wrong advice.

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10 years?
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Old 16-10-2011, 05:11   #126
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10 years?
Is this supposed to be funny, or did I hit a nerve? About 10 years ago we started making plans for long-term cruising and a circumnavigation. I made the mistake of listening to some self-proclaimed experts. It did not take long to figure out that I had been misinformed, but it cost time and money to find out.

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Old 16-10-2011, 05:32   #127
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... About 10 years ago we started making plans for long-term cruising and a circumnavigation. I made the mistake of listening to some self-proclaimed experts. It did not take long to figure out that I had been misinformed ...
Since Bill's only been around the CF for about 3 years (since Sept 2008), I hope we can assume that he's not referring to any of our "experts".
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Is this supposed to be funny, or did I hit a nerve? About 10 years ago we started making plans for long-term cruising and a circumnavigation. I made the mistake of listening to some self-proclaimed experts. It did not take long to figure out that I had been misinformed, but it cost time and money to find out.

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So not 10 years then........
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

You guys are way too funny.

Do you think that CF is the only place to meet "experts?"

10 years ago there were other places, as there are other places today.

And, yes, 10 years ago, like I said in my original post, I was convinced the advice I got on a similar forum/group was genuine. It was not!

I hope that some of the virgins reading this thread will learn something from what I have said...but be careful virgins because I could be the person misinforming!

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Heck Columbus proved the flat earth guys wrong and he was on the wrong side of the world! Then to top it off...the US is dumb enough to have a holiday for an error prone guy who discovered the Bahamas...
Duh... It IS flat (my flat map of the world proves it) and there be dragons out there!! [I'm just angry because I didn't get the day off to celebrate Columbus's trip.]

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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

This thread is asking a much more important question than why people lie. To me, it is asking: How do we get good information and how do we know it is good information??
Need to start a new thread- how to tell if what you hear is true? I will call it "Marine Truth" and I would appreciate everyone's input.
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

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This thread is asking a much more important question than why people lie. To me, it is asking: How do we get good information and how do we know it is good information??
Need to start a new thread- how to tell if what you hear is true? I will call it "Marine Truth" and I would appreciate everyone's input.
Good Question.

One of the ways CF could improve this forum is to give its users the opportunity to anonymously 1-click vote for "good useful info" or "useless info." Then show the tally on each posting. It would be better than what is presented now. It certainly would not be foolproof. And, hopefully, it would likely cut down on the stupid off-subject postings.

I do not think that a user has the ability to validate information in a forum like this. Users in this forum can give any credentials they want and you and I have seen lots of this on this forum.

If you have a serious question that has your time and assets in the balance, do not rely on guidance from someone that you do not know.

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This thread is asking a much more important question than why people lie. To me, it is asking: How do we get good information and how do we know it is good information??
Need to start a new thread- how to tell if what you hear is true? I will call it "Marine Truth" and I would appreciate everyone's input.
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Take it all with a pinch of salt...
What works for me may not work for you...
But that don't make it bad advice... just means your a picky buga...
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Take it all with a pinch of salt...
What works for me may not work for you...
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