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Old 26-09-2011, 13:06   #46
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Fact check.
Oh facts.

I guess I just look at most of the stuff on forums as opinion. Sure it can be pretty empirical if you're talking stuff like electrical or plumbing or knots - but even the facts in these areas can be interpreted pretty widely when it comes to application.

Then beyond this stuff, when it gets into technique, gear, and especially sailing philosophy - those facts start getting pretty scarce pretty fast.

All the fact checking I've done in my illustriously brief sailing career has lead me to one inescapable conclusion - most all advice is opinion. And that's cool. Nothing wrong with that. I've seen bad advice from very experienced sailors, and vice versa. I just always keep some Morton's handy.
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Old 26-09-2011, 14:07   #47
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

I am amazed at the responses....pleased in fact....It strenghtens the faith I have in this forum.....There are some reall witty, bright individuals here.



So where is the National Convention for CF going to be held?
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Old 26-09-2011, 14:14   #48
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I am amazed at the responses....pleased in fact....It strenghtens the faith I have in this forum.....There are some reall witty, bright individuals here.



So where is the National Convention for CF going to be held?

can we bring guns and have a cook out..........
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Old 26-09-2011, 14:27   #49
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The good news is, if you yourself are bright enough, you can carefully phrase your original question, evaluate your initial responses, refine your question by providing the additional information which you thought was irrelevant but now, as a result of the ensuing conversion, know was crucial to the resolution of your problem, and eventually winnow it down to the likely options for successful resolution of your issue.



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That works for me a lot here except for the 5 mile wifi thread.

I remained so dizzy I had to unsubscribe.
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can we bring guns and have a cook out..........
Just bring an anchor. It would get more attention.
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Fortunately we have managed to evolve an organ for telling the difference between ***** and shinola, however flawed it may be.

The tongue??
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Old 26-09-2011, 14:48   #52
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

It seems that even Walt Schultz of Shannon gets annoyed by it.

Getting answers to boating questions
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Just bring an anchor. It would get more attention.
a rocna or a manson ?.........
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Old 27-09-2011, 19:10   #54
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

Without reading the whole thread I'll throw in my two cents worth:

As anyone with kids who have grown beyond puberty will tell you, they will soon reach a point where they truly believe they know, if not everything, enough to provide others with advice. Some people never mature.
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Old 27-09-2011, 19:34   #55
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Without reading the whole thread I'll throw in my two cents worth:

As anyone with kids who have grown beyond puberty will tell you, they will soon reach a point where they truly believe they know, if not everything, enough to provide others with advice. Some people never mature.
Then you start changing diapers...and realize...maybe you didn't know as much as you thought.
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Old 27-09-2011, 19:38   #56
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Re: Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?

In my job with the US Coast Guard Office of Boating Safety I used to hear so many "myths" and bad advice, that I started writing them down. After I retired I put them on my website. New Boatbuilders Home Page - Everything Boat Building - Boating and Boat Building Myths Most of these were from boat owners who called in and said, so and so told me....... Could this be true? But far too many times I heard these things from marine professionals. I am sure I a have been guilty of bad advice at times, but most times if I didn't know I tried to refer them to someone who did.

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" R. A. Heinlein
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In my job with the US Coast Guard Office of Boating Safety I used to hear so many "myths" and bad advice, that I started writing them down. After I retired I put them on my website. New Boatbuilders Home Page - Everything Boat Building - Boating and Boat Building Myths Most of these were from boat owners who called in and said, so and so told me....... Could this be true? But far too many times I heard these things from marine professionals. I am sure I a have been guilty of bad advice at times, but most times if I didn't know I tried to refer them to someone who did.

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" R. A. Heinlein
Thanks, I've put your website on my favorites, I'm sure it will come in handy more than once.
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Without reading the whole thread I'll throw in my two cents worth:

As anyone with kids who have grown beyond puberty will tell you, they will soon reach a point where they truly believe they know, if not everything, enough to provide others with advice. Some people never mature.
Wasn't it Samuel Langhorne Clemens who said "When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he's learned in seven years".
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In my job with the US Coast Guard Office of Boating Safety I used to hear so many "myths" and bad advice, that I started writing them down. After I retired I put them on my website. New Boatbuilders Home Page - Everything Boat Building - Boating and Boat Building Myths Most of these were from boat owners who called in and said, so and so told me....... Could this be true? But far too many times I heard these things from marine professionals. I am sure I a have been guilty of bad advice at times, but most times if I didn't know I tried to refer them to someone who did.

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" R. A. Heinlein
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