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Old 18-09-2015, 21:15   #256
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Re: When we shouldn't encourage people to "just go"

People are looking for validation of their dreams. Who are we to dump on and ridicule them. I just hope those being the most negatively vocal are not the ones too scared to give it a go.

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Re: When we shouldn't encourage people to "just go"

Doesn't look like a generalisation to me, maybe our languages are not interchangeable!
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The most famous CF alumni of the "go now" school of thought is Ronnie Simpson (spoiler alert - he ended up on a slow boat to China....a long thread or 2!!).

But he did not only survive but went on to become an experienced sailor.

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Old 19-09-2015, 03:45   #259
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Re: When we shouldn't encourage people to "just go"

I dont ask too many questions. Usually because I dont like the answers received. However, in general if I want to do something, the matter will be investigated thoroughly and then chocks away.

A person wanting to sail around the world with no experience, if of the cautious persuasion will watch and observe and decide within themselves whether or not they can do it, or if they are prepared to take the chance. I believe I am of that school of thinking. However I have no interest in sailing around the world, but did take my boat from the UK to Spain in the 80's with minimal experience. I knew how to operate the yacht but had never done it in anger in the open sea. ( I had 3 crew on each leg, and only one with more experience than me) It is different. However keeping your head and observing all the learned routines and techniques worked, albeit strange to do when the boat is in a force 7 and jigging all over the place. You have to keep reminding yourself that it will stop at some point, along with the puking and slight anxiety.

A person will learn if they are observant. Become a good sailor in due course and be refined by chats and things shown them by more experienced seamen.

Sometimes, its hard to see from the comments who are the dreamers and who will succeed. All that good sailors on CF can do is put out the advice and cautions and leave it at that.
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To Korrigan's list of "stuff" to take when you go cruising I would add Occam's Razor!

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Doesn't look like a generalisation to me, maybe our languages are not interchangeable!
No offense meant there. Sorry now that I sounded too stiff! My fault making a comment very short and dry.

PLS read my earlier post as expressed in the heart of the OP which reads "when we should NOT".

Those who want to go will not listen to naysayers and those who are too scared to go will not listen to those who say go for it. We tend to overestimate the extent to which our well meant advice is taken into consideration by people asking our opinion.

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To Korrigan's list of "stuff" to take when you go cruising I would add Occam's Razor!

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No offense meant there. Sorry now that I sounded too stiff! My fault making a comment very short and dry.

PLS read my earlier post as expressed in the heart of the OP which reads "when we should NOT".

Those who want to go will not listen to naysayers and those who are too scared to go will not listen to those who say go for it. We tend to overestimate the extent to which our well meant advice is taken into consideration by people asking our opinion.

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Newbies with very little or no sailing experience do not understand that sailing is a dangerous sport.
I bet sailing is no where as dangerous as newbies think it is. Newbies read books and books and danger sells books. Last statistics I read golf was a lot more dangerous than sailing.
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I bet sailing is no where as dangerous as newbies think it is. Newbies read books and books and danger sells books. Last statistics I read golf was a lot more dangerous than sailing.
I bet it is.

I know of at lest six casualties last year - all this only within the very limited area of N Atlantic and based of press clips. I would very wildly guess there are at least 20 but likely more fatalities any given year.

How many people die from playing golf every year?

But maybe there are more injuries in golf than in sailing.

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I bet it is.

I know of at lest six casualties last year - all this only within the very limited area of N Atlantic and based of press clips. I would very wildly guess there are at least 20 but likely more fatalities any given year.

How many people die from playing golf every year?

But maybe there are more injuries in golf than in sailing.

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Golfing deaths appear to be in the 20 to 30 per year range if you exclude riding the golf cart. Add in golf course workers and you end up with 150 deaths per year in the US.

118 per year on horseback in the US

406 falls from ladders and such

66 lightning strike deaths (on golf courses for a lot of those)

Swimming ---- 3447 per year in the US


If I remember correctly there were a few people who kept telling Columbus that he had never crossed an ocean before, that he did not know what was out there and that he would fall off the edge of the world. Others said that he did not have the experience and was not ready for the hazards that he would likely encounter.....
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