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Old 03-01-2006, 23:16   #1
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What would you do?

This guy seems anxious to save his insurance company some money. Some extreme weather in NZ at the moment and this is what he decides.
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May be his heart is in the right place, but ….
‘When the ship is sinking the rats bail out’ to sail another day.
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Old 04-01-2006, 09:20   #3
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But wait, there's more

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3529997a10,00.html

Makes you wonder.
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Doesn't seem to me that the ship is actually sinking though. Just drifting with no sails and no engine. This should not be a rescue, it should be a tow. He should contract with a commercial tow outfit to tow him in.

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I hope he has a sea anchor. I don't know which way the wind is blowing him, but lets hope it's not onto shore!

It looks like an IOR design (same hull-lines and rig as mine). He's probably having a rough ride but it's a strong hull design with positive bouyance for and aft................_/)
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Safe

He was drifting down onto D'urville Island, Wheels' cruising ground (he could have made a salvage). Area is renowned for vicious tides, katabatic winds and is peppered with rocks.

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He made it and I admire his courage! Sounds to me like the only reason he debarked in the first place was to insure his daughter's safety.

How many disaster stories do we read where the crew abandoned a perfectly bouyant boat thinking the liferaft was a better choice? Most of those end in tragedy....

But not being part of the crew going through the experience means we get to be armchair commodores...

What a fine line between stupidity and courage eh?

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It doesn't really matter where we sit. The guy set off his EPIRB in atrocious weather conditions when all he wanted (and was prepared to accept) was a tow, putting people's lives in unnecessary danger. After over 16 years plying the seas commercially I am tired of these sort of people. New Zealand's international sea rescue area covers about 12.5% of the world's surface and we have very limited resources compared with most other coastal nations.
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Tow vice rescue

Hear! Hear! There are far too many sailors (and I use this description in the loosest fashion) who get on ch 16 when they run out of gas etc. Thankfully up here on Canada's wet coast the authorities have gotten wise and now offer to call for a tow.

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The Rescuers

Sort of a tangent, but I just read in yesterday's paper about a spate of hoax mayday calls. Can you believe there are twits out there who get their kicks by wasting taxpayers' dollars and possibly endangering lives! On an up-note, a fisherman in Halifax was found guilty of conveying false information for making a fake mayday - he was sentenced to 14 days in jail.

The Rescue Coordination Centre in Victoria handled 4000 calls last year and they estimate a quarter of them were false alarms or hoaxes. I was shocked.

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Hell... I'd stick them in jail for more than 14 days. And I'd slap them with a fine on top of that.

That'll show them pranksters what the law is truily about?
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These idiots do get caught. Ham operaters have been involved in tracking down quite a few band jammers among other things, but I wonder if anyone has asked the idiots why. I can not think of a single reason to put out false distress calls. I just do not understand.
As for the actions of this sailor, I do not know what I would do. Based on the very limited information in the articles, I may have done the same thing, but I just do not know. My first priority would have been the same. To get my crew to safety. My second priority would have been to try to save the boat, and my final priority would be to save myself. It sounds to me that he did exactly that. as for putting others at risk, I would like to think I would ot have done that, but I guess you just had to be there.
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We managed to just get in before the worst of that weather hit. We had 42knts in the shelter of the sound and that raised to 50+ an hr after we birthed. However, it could have been very different. We were nearly in the middle of that storm, as we had indeed answered a Mayday call. Not for that French fellow though. This one was a 35ft launch that had gone up on a Boulder bank in Greville Harbour on D'Urville Island. A very nasty piece of water. He had got caught by the speed of the water exiting the harbour and ended up being pounded on the rocks till the tide dropped and left him high and dry. We stood by ready to help if needed, but a salvage guy arrived and allowed us to get on with our trip. We had to make a very natoriouse pass at ebb flow or else we would be stuck out there with the full force of the storm. The launch made it off and back to shelter OK as well. Although he had sever damage to Skeg and rudder.
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Hey Wheels!!

Does New Zealand have alot of coral or other type of reefs surrounding your country. (Like Australia)?
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I guess you just had to be there.
Quite right - the paper seems to have left out a fair amount of the story. I can't imagine why the Coastguard took him back to his boat - I wouldn't think it's in their mandate to provide salvage services. To me a 'mayday' implies an imminent loss of life; if this situation truly qualified, I don't see how it could be justified taking the crew of the yacht back out before the storm had abated.

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