Ugly incident

NoTies · 20-02-2006, 23:41

What was this guy thinking?
http://www.gkko.com/videos/2081/ferry-vs-sail-boat

CaptainK · 21-02-2006, 00:05

Ouch!!

Man I hate to be in that boat when that happened?

Alan Wheeler · 21-02-2006, 00:17

Ummmm, that he wished he hadn't missed the day sailing school discussed the difference between Port and Starboard and the finer points of stearing.

2divers · 21-02-2006, 07:00

I Love the two schools of thought entertained by the crew of the sailboat.

Watch the guy in the bow calmly sit there at get nailed by the ferry.

Watch the smart guy in the stern as the sailboat turns sideways jump off.

DOAH!!!!!

By Invitation · 21-02-2006, 07:24

There was a thread on another board about this, it turns out it was an insurance claim planned in advance. Still hurts to watch.

NoTies · 21-02-2006, 07:33

There's not an icon on here that can convey my feelings. They WHAT???

Lodesman · 21-02-2006, 09:24

I saw this in the other thread and I think there was some question as to whether or not this was an insurance grab. For one thing, it's obvious that at least two people were unprepared to abandon ship (guy on the bow and girl in cockpit). I think it was an inadvertant helm hard over - maybe a mechanical failure or tiller dyslexia.

Kevin

NoTies · 21-02-2006, 09:28

What was wrong with a good old fashioned scuttling in deep water?

BC Mike · 21-02-2006, 09:30

Yes someone could have yelled turn hard right and the person steering could have turned hard left.
The helmsman moved the tiller hard right and crash. Things can get confusing, some folks do turn the wrong way by accident.
Could have been a rooky at the helm, turned the wrong way and froze. The commentor refers to it as a small boat which it is in relation to the ferry, but it is about 38 feet long, so not a small sail boat. the forward person is not moving much but what would anyone do in that situation. It is hard to get the brain to handle the input and make a plan and activate.
Michael

Alan Wheeler · 21-02-2006, 11:43

It is very obviuose what the guy on the bow is doing. He's craping his pants!
If this was an insurance claim, mate they deserve tha money. That took guts if it was on purpose.

miriamlam · 25-03-2006, 05:25

I think that person didn't know how to operate his tiller! Clang! Mental note...know how to operate your boat before going out in busy waters! LOL

ssullivan · 25-03-2006, 06:14

You know... I'm speachless on this one. So painful. I would tend to think it's someone inexperienced at the helm as well since they were on a perfectly good course to start (although a little close) and then quickly degraded to the disaster.

I definitely noticed the person on the bow's look of fear. Wow.

I'd say the sailboat was wrong via rules of the road... ha ha

Pickles · 10-08-2006, 05:41

Oh good heavens where the people on the sail boat alright?

rsn48 · 11-08-2006, 11:30

I crewed on my buddies boat with a new member who hadn't really sailed a lot. My buddy was below and the newbie was at the tiller. I sat beside the newbie and watch as he pointed the boat at a large container ship coming in Vancouver BC harbour. I watched as we got closer and closer expecting him to turn at any moment. When collision was about close to happening, I realized this guy had some sort of brain freeze and wasn't going to do anything. I jumped up, yanked the tiller from him and swung the boat around. I was worried the ship would steal our wind so I jammed the motor on so I would still have control of the boat.

I was an officer in the Canadian Cadets and we lost a teen on a hike into the mountains. A search party went out looking for him in this very very narrow valley; so narrow I was confident we would find him. Several times we went up and down it, looking for him and calling out his name. I spotted him about 50 yards off the trail; we must have walked past him several times and he could definitely hear our cries. I was miffed that he hadn't responded or just walked out when he saw us. I asked him what he was thinking and he said he didn't know; he was frozen in action - another brain freeze. I've learned in emergency situations not to rely on the actions of others in terms of logic of the situation.

Wukong · 11-08-2006, 14:37

How does the cameraman or narrator know that the sailboat is going to cut in front of the ferry? It is quite possible that the sound was dubbed over the video. If it was not edited, it would sure seem to be a setup.

20-02-2006, 23:41	#1
NoTies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vuda Point, Fiji Islands Boat: Whiting 29' extended "Nightcap" Posts: 651	Ugly incident What was this guy thinking? http://www.gkko.com/videos/2081/ferry-vs-sail-boat __________________ Pete Positively, socially deviant.

21-02-2006, 00:05	#2
CaptainK Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona... USA Posts: 2,387	Ouch!! Man I hate to be in that boat when that happened? __________________ CaptainK BMYC "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin

21-02-2006, 00:17	#3
Alan Wheeler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady Posts: 8,042	Ummmm, that he wished he hadn't missed the day sailing school discussed the difference between Port and Starboard and the finer points of stearing. __________________ Wheels For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.

21-02-2006, 07:00	#4
2divers Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Boat: Hans Christian Christina (40') in March 09 Posts: 184	ABANDON SHIP!!!!!!!! I Love the two schools of thought entertained by the crew of the sailboat. Watch the guy in the bow calmly sit there at get nailed by the ferry. Watch the smart guy in the stern as the sailboat turns sideways jump off. DOAH!!!!!

21-02-2006, 07:33	#6
NoTies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vuda Point, Fiji Islands Boat: Whiting 29' extended "Nightcap" Posts: 651	There's not an icon on here that can convey my feelings. They WHAT??? __________________ Pete Positively, socially deviant.

21-02-2006, 07:24	#5
By Invitation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wakefield Rhode Island Posts: 266	There was a thread on another board about this, it turns out it was an insurance claim planned in advance. Still hurts to watch.

21-02-2006, 09:24	#7
Lodesman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ottawa ON Canada Boat: 26' trailer sailer (starter) Posts: 1,072	I saw this in the other thread and I think there was some question as to whether or not this was an insurance grab. For one thing, it's obvious that at least two people were unprepared to abandon ship (guy on the bow and girl in cockpit). I think it was an inadvertant helm hard over - maybe a mechanical failure or tiller dyslexia. Kevin

21-02-2006, 09:28	#8
NoTies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vuda Point, Fiji Islands Boat: Whiting 29' extended "Nightcap" Posts: 651	What was wrong with a good old fashioned scuttling in deep water? __________________ Pete Positively, socially deviant.

21-02-2006, 09:30	#9
BC Mike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kelowna BC Boat: Tanzer 8.5m Tanzer 22 Posts: 1,029	Bear left, right frog. Yes someone could have yelled turn hard right and the person steering could have turned hard left. The helmsman moved the tiller hard right and crash. Things can get confusing, some folks do turn the wrong way by accident. Could have been a rooky at the helm, turned the wrong way and froze. The commentor refers to it as a small boat which it is in relation to the ferry, but it is about 38 feet long, so not a small sail boat. the forward person is not moving much but what would anyone do in that situation. It is hard to get the brain to handle the input and make a plan and activate. Michael

21-02-2006, 11:43	#10
Alan Wheeler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady Posts: 8,042	It is very obviuose what the guy on the bow is doing. He's craping his pants! If this was an insurance claim, mate they deserve tha money. That took guts if it was on purpose. __________________ Wheels For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.

25-03-2006, 05:25	#11
miriamlam Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, BC Boat: 1945 converted seiner Posts: 5	ouch! I think that person didn't know how to operate his tiller! Clang! Mental note...know how to operate your boat before going out in busy waters! LOL

25-03-2006, 06:14	#12
ssullivan Senior Cruiser Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,530	You know... I'm speachless on this one. So painful. I would tend to think it's someone inexperienced at the helm as well since they were on a perfectly good course to start (although a little close) and then quickly degraded to the disaster. I definitely noticed the person on the bow's look of fear. Wow. I'd say the sailboat was wrong via rules of the road... ha ha

10-08-2006, 05:41	#13
Pickles Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	Oh good heavens where the people on the sail boat alright?

11-08-2006, 11:30	#14
rsn48 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Deep Cove - North Vancouver, BC Boat: Catalina 27 - Leaky Cauldron Posts: 350	I crewed on my buddies boat with a new member who hadn't really sailed a lot. My buddy was below and the newbie was at the tiller. I sat beside the newbie and watch as he pointed the boat at a large container ship coming in Vancouver BC harbour. I watched as we got closer and closer expecting him to turn at any moment. When collision was about close to happening, I realized this guy had some sort of brain freeze and wasn't going to do anything. I jumped up, yanked the tiller from him and swung the boat around. I was worried the ship would steal our wind so I jammed the motor on so I would still have control of the boat. I was an officer in the Canadian Cadets and we lost a teen on a hike into the mountains. A search party went out looking for him in this very very narrow valley; so narrow I was confident we would find him. Several times we went up and down it, looking for him and calling out his name. I spotted him about 50 yards off the trail; we must have walked past him several times and he could definitely hear our cries. I was miffed that he hadn't responded or just walked out when he saw us. I asked him what he was thinking and he said he didn't know; he was frozen in action - another brain freeze. I've learned in emergency situations not to rely on the actions of others in terms of logic of the situation.

11-08-2006, 14:37	#15
Wukong Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 79	How does the cameraman or narrator know that the sailboat is going to cut in front of the ferry? It is quite possible that the sound was dubbed over the video. If it was not edited, it would sure seem to be a setup. __________________ When you strike first, you don't have to get even.

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