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Old 10-06-2011, 06:44   #316
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Re: Sudden Attraction to Hunters

Fishsail18: One nice feature of the 37.5 Hunters of that era is they came with an anodized toerail that helped protect the topsides when docking. Seems like a simple thing, but being able to pivot around, or slide along a piling when current or wind has the boat pinned could be handy. Several members of the hunterowners.com forum have commented that the rubber rub rail Hunter used to replace the aluminum toe rails is hard to keep clean, can peel off when bumping a piling and is a pita to replace, etc. I think adding the stainless insert on the newer boats helped the rub rail damage issue a lot. The previous owner (and USCG captain) of our marina was a large Hunter dealer. Her personal boat was a 37.5 that she took thru the Bahamas and Abacos many times. She had many upgrades done to the boat before cruisng it and the only negative thing I remember her saying was she wished the cockpit was bigger. I guess the point is that she could have chosen any model Hunter and her choice was the 37.5. Good Luck with your search.
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Re: Sudden Attraction to Hunters

Don, nicely put. I cannot understand how people can generalise so much and it proves their ignorance. When was 'in mast furling' EVER a Hunter thing?? I've seen many without, including a 1994 40.5 that I viewed recently. Also, had a top opening fridge, Also has LOADS of handholds, Also had an L shaped galley, so easy to wedge in, Also, had a very sturdy hand rail in front of the cooker that you could easily clip a harness onto if required.

Whats so bad with in mast anyway? I know many, ahem, 'proper sailors' say that in mast is a no-no but explain WHY they are so popular then? As far as I know, all boats sold with them have a conventional option, so it's the buyers that are choosing it. I have a neighbour here that owns a nice 10 year old Bene 40cc with it and he swears by it, in 10 years extensive Med' cruising, he's never had a problem and just loves it.

The main problem with the in mast systems jamming is caused by bad maintainance and poor handling of the sail when stowing. Blame the user, not the device.

To me, this is like Auto vs Manual in a car. Sure a manual gives you better control and performance but a great deal of customers (especialy in the US) choose a more expensive Auto for the ease of use they provide.
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Complaining that a boat didn't come with a galley harness or lee cloths is like complaining it didn't come with radar or a spinnaker. You want that stuff, you can either install it yourself, or ask the dealer to including in the commissioning.

Likewise, Hunter boats don't come with a cockpit enclosures. That's not even a factory option. If, on a Hunter like on any other boat, you see a cockpit enclosure, that's because the owner got a canvass shop to build one custom for that boat.

If anything is being proven here, it's that Hunter bashing is every bit as mindless as any other form of production boat bashing.
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Let's leave the personal attackes out of it please fellows.
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funney thing about Hunters is that i never see any .We have been cruising now for two and a half years, have done over 14000 nm visited 9 countries ,over 120 anchorages all thru Australia, P.N.G ,Indo,West Papua, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand ,Chagos, Rodriquiz and Mauritius where we are now . I have seen some yachts big,small and in between . I have seen a fair amount of Bene's and a few Bavaria's {but none past 10s } .We met a guy at Chagos on a Wharram 22 on route to Mauritius when the trades had set in .... nice guy but madness ! .Anyway my point is we have never seen a Hunter ..not one {excluding a few Sydney marinas} wonder why?
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If you want to find fault with a boat you will even if its only the stove. The Hunter's are fine never owned one not sure if I ever will but can guarantee I will not knock one back if its the right boat right price.
oh man, don't get me started on my hunter's stove. Stupid single alcohol burning stove. What was that company thinking? WHERE ARE THE HANDHOLDS??? I can't sail without handholds. What's that hun? make some? out of what? Rope? CANNOT be done.
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oh man, don't get me started on my hunter's stove. Stupid single alcohol burning stove. What was that company thinking? WHERE ARE THE HANDHOLDS??? I can't sail without handholds. What's that hun? make some? out of what? Rope? CANNOT be done.
I have never seen a Hunter with an Alcohol stove must be an antique. Should get it valued maybe worth millions. Are the sails hand stitched embroided as well, wow ring the Maritime museum they might be interested
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ok, so I think we can all agree to disagree?? and that's fine, maybe we should drop the subject and move on to more productive things. I read the reviews on the Hunter owners forum and was supprised how happy the owners were with the boats, very few complaints, True I don't think they were world cruisers like many of you out there. But either am I.
I am a customer service Manager for a boat builder and we have a web site with a forum, Anyone that has an issue has no problem letting us all know about the problems they have. , It seems to me that most of the complaints are coming from non hunter owners? I will do my research and pick the boat best for me, Thanks to all for yur input. Have a great week..
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ok, so I think we can all agree to disagree?? and that's fine, maybe we should drop the subject and move on to more productive things. I read the reviews on the Hunter owners forum and was supprised how happy the owners were with the boats, very few complaints, True I don't think they were world cruisers like many of you out there. But either am I.
I am a customer service Manager for a boat builder and we have a web site with a forum, Anyone that has an issue has no problem letting us all know about the problems they have. , It seems to me that most of the complaints are coming from non hunter owners? I will do my research and pick the boat best for me, Thanks to all for yur input. Have a great week..
I think you are wrong on one count but quite correct on the other:

It would seem there are no more "world" cruisers here as are there. In fact, from my observation, I believe there may be more green water cruisers on the SBO (the parent site for many different boat brands) site than anywhere else.

The comment with which I would strongly agree is that all the criticisms come from folks who are non-Hunter owners. Either they think criticism makes them sound knowledgeable or rationalizes their choice in boats. Regardless, if H owners had complaints, we'd see them here as well as there.

Morale (metaphor) of the story - people tend to think their car is better than other car(s).
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I think you are wrong on one count but quite correct on the other:

It would seem there are no more "world" cruisers here as are there. In fact, from my observation, I believe there may be more green water cruisers on the SBO (the parent site for many different boat brands) site than anywhere else.

The comment with which I would strongly agree is that all the criticisms come from folks who are non-Hunter owners. Either they think criticism makes them sound knowledgeable or rationalizes their choice in boats. Regardless, if H owners had complaints, we'd see them here as well as there.

Morale (metaphor) of the story - people tend to think their car is better than other car(s).
It's not rational to expect the owners to be the critics, either. Firstly, to admit problems with the boat you chose, you first have to admit you made a poor choice. Nobody wants to do that. Secondly, you may want to sell that boat someday, and publicly running it down is not the best strategy for bucking up its resale value.

Admittedly, it's just as likely that the non-owners are doing the bad mouthing out of pride, arrogance, envy whatever. Or, it could just be that they're giving their honest opinion.

But to assume that one is any more objective than the other is nonsense.

This goes for Hunter, or anything else.
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It is equally true that it is nonsense to assume anyone who does not own and have substantial experience with a specific boat brand can speak knowledgeably about it, perhaps more so. The objectivity with which owners state their comments on SBO appears to be quite apparent evidenced by the negative comments and criticisms they volunteer in those reviews. My point is I would place a lot more credibility in owners comments and criticisms much more than some of the internet experts so abundant here.
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S/V Illusion seems to be implying that you can't discern shoddy construction and poor equipment/design by looking at it or watching it "work." I disagree.
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Firstly, to admit problems with the boat you chose, you first have to admit you made a poor choice. Nobody wants to do that. .
Americans are the most litigious society in world history. If Hunter people thought they were ripped off they would be bleating the blazes out of Hunter... armed with Lawyers, books and secretaries at the ready.


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S/V Illusion seems to be implying that you can't discern shoddy construction and poor equipment/design by looking at it or watching it "work." I disagree.
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