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Old 03-02-2010, 12:11   #1
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Sorry Vendors - But I Am a Sailor, Not a Consumer...

This last week I had the opportunity to go to a big boat show. "We'll get you the tickets" said the local yacht business "Who knows you may find something you like" Well, after sleeping on it I already knew the answer. I have found something I like. Its already there in the marina, and I have the key to the door lock.
Other people I know seem to like shopping, but I just like redoing old sailboats.
So sorry all you guys that see me as money.
Not interested.
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Not everyone sees customers as money. Most of the people I meet at our booths become our friends. I'm no salesman, while some salesman can sell ice to an Eskimo, I can't sell a two dollar Parka to a naked one on credit. I've found that in this crazy business that most sailors already know what they want when they come to the boat show. Sometimes their wants need a little tweaking to meet their best interests. Many of us have old boats as well and will sit and talk cruising and boats as much at the show as we do in the anchorages. If you ever get by the Florida shows Newt, stop by, I promise the only money you might spend with me will be for the second round.
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...I can't sell a two dollar Parka to a naked one on credit...


...I promise the only money you might spend with me will be for the second round.

Now if you bought all the rounds all night you mighta gotten that Eskimo to buy the parka.
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Im with ya there Newt...I have never been to a boat show..and see no reason to change now...I have never enjoyed taunting myself with things I cant afford...Only ever been to one car show... it didn't do anything for me either.

Ya sure I pass a cool boat in the yard or on the dock and go Wow! nice boat wonder what she looks like below like every body else does...but that's about it.

OK sure I have a couple dream boats ..but they ain't new either.



OK OK.... Id be happy just for a ride..
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Old 03-02-2010, 14:29   #7
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I go to a major show every year for at least two days although I have no intention of buying a boat. I go looking for parts, ideas, information and deals on whatever needs upgrading or replacing. I might look at a one or two boats I admire, but most of the time is spent talking to vendors and getting a great deal on something I need to purchase anyway.

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The few shows that I've been to over the years, I spend time at the various electronics counters, usually to find out I know
more that the salesman...and I don't know much!
My wife used to like looking at the new boats...until someone
pointed out to her what they thought might be a selling point,
a nice compact washer and dryer unit!
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If your a sailor, your a consumer, the only reason you don't know it, is you havn't thought about it hard enough.

Even if you don't need a new boat, how about parts? Sails? Lines? Ground Tackle? Or a dinghy? Or dinghy motor?

You never know what you'll find when you go to a boat show. And at some point every old boat needs something. Maybe something you didn't even know existed?
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I have helped a friend at a couple of shows. One of the things I have learned is how many of the booth people or sales people, are doing this because they love boats and sailing. If you think about it, most of those booths are not full of rich business owners. They are full of folks who either invented something that worked better, or found a line of something they could get behind. And they are working hard. Shows are hard work, but everyone I know in the booths gets pumped up about it.
Just ask them, how did you get started? Most gave up a corporate life, to sell things they believe in. And very few are getting rich. Some very smart people know a lot more than just what they are trying to educate you on.
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I go to the Seattle Boat Show nearly every year with one to four friends. Take a day off and go mid-week, usually to the "afloat" show on Lake Union (Central Seattle). Its a good excuse to get out of the house, spend some time with friends and speculate about life if I had chosen my parents better. I always learn something and where else can you get free tide tables?
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We go to boat shows as well. For the local one, it is an afternoon of entertainment for the price of a movie. Some shows, like at Annappolis we go to occassionaly because we like the town. It's a vacation. Additionally, if I am in the market for a particular piece of gear, I like to go and physically see it and handle it. If I am seriously interested I'll get their "boat show price" and compare it to other quotes. Unfortunately, in many cases the price at the show is higher than other quotes. It seems many vendors don't do any research on their competition or else don't care.

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I have helped a friend at a couple of shows. One of the things I have learned is how many of the booth people or sales people, are doing this because they love boats and sailing. If you think about it, most of those booths are not full of rich business owners. They are full of folks who either invented something that worked better, or found a line of something they could get behind. And they are working hard. Shows are hard work, but everyone I know in the booths gets pumped up about it.
Just ask them, how did you get started? Most gave up a corporate life, to sell things they believe in. And very few are getting rich. Some very smart people know a lot more than just what they are trying to educate you on.

Pretty accurate post Jmolan.
Working boats shows is like becoming a school teacher to get rich, it just doesn't make sense. I remember well being on the customer side of the booth. The majority of the people we get stopping by and willing to talk are really fun to meet and get to know. It's really a lot of fun even though you are right it is hard work. Stepping behind a boat show booth doesn't transform me from the cruiser I am, like everybody else, into the greedy sell you anything any everything you don't need slimball. Sure there are always those few people at every show both vendors and tire kickers. But I learned long ago to smile anyway. If you really want to get to know who the vendors are and what type of folks they really are, instead of fighting the parking lot crowd to get out, stick around after the show closes. We have a blast! Miami shows next week. Stop by and I'll prove it.
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I went to the Jack London show in Oakland in 93. Went on the last day late in the afternoon. Walked out with a GPS, and radar for a sweet deal.

Did the same thing in Miami 4 years ago. Was in need of a larger dink. Drove down in the morning, and once again showed up on the last day in the afternoon. Got a Caribe for nearly half price.

The shows aren't just about buying a boat. I walk into chandleries all the time. I have no intention on buying anything. Now & then I walk out with something dirt cheap. My wife has 2 pairs of Teva Spyder sole sandals that are new, and in the box. Because they stick well, and are very comfortable I bought them for her. They were less than half price.

I think it's great you love the boat you have. You still have to keep her fit, and that sir. Makes you a consumer no matter what........i2f
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Whats not to like about a boat show? Cool stuff you may not wont or need but like looking at, Fellow boaters wanderng aimlessly. Yet another reason to get off the boat. Roast beef sandwich from the Fleet Reserve Club at the Annapolis show. Painkllers! at Pussers. One on one with vendors. Not going to boat shows is like owning a house and never going to home depot. lf you are into boats you are drawn. Any decent cruiser will wrangle a way in for free or cheap
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